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Old February 18 2011, 04:53 PM   #1
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Captain Pike

Which Pike was better and why?

I liked all three.

Hunter was humanized and tough.

Kennery (sp?) was what I'd expect from Hunter's Pike. A hero for saving cadets.

Greenwood was the PERFECT Pike, he had authority and he was gorgeous....
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Old February 18 2011, 04:59 PM   #2
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I really enjoyed what we saw from Hunter and wish that we could have gotten more. Although I don't think he would have been quite as fun as Kirk, I think it would have been an interesting character to develop. But, the Pike that we saw in Greenwood was excellent as well. I hope they use him well in the Star Trek sequel.
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Old February 18 2011, 05:09 PM   #3
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Greenwood makes a new facet on the Pike character. For not being fans, the reboot writers did a great job with my idea of Pike
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Old February 18 2011, 05:13 PM   #4
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I like Greewood's best. Never cared much for Hunter's Pike; he just existed. But I really like Greenwood's "interpretation" of the character.
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Old February 18 2011, 05:48 PM   #5
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Greenwood was the PERFECT Pike, he had authority and he was gorgeous....
Agreed.

But I disagreed strongly with his irrational decision to bump an inexperienced cadet all the way up to First Officer, for many reasons.

Terrible command decision.
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Old February 18 2011, 06:00 PM   #6
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I like Greewood's best. Never cared much for Hunter's Pike; he just existed. But I really like Greenwood's "interpretation" of the character.
*smacks the Cardie swine* How dare you knock Jeff Hunter! J/K

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Greenwood was the PERFECT Pike, he had authority and he was gorgeous....
Agreed.

But I disagreed strongly with his irrational decision to bump an inexperienced cadet all the way up to First Officer, for many reasons.

Terrible command decision.
That was one of those, it wouldn't be Trek without Kirk in command pieces of BS decision.
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Old February 18 2011, 06:23 PM   #7
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Understood. But the device for getting him there was poorly done. It's like "Oh hell, we have to have Kirk in charge and he's only just got out of the Academy. What should we do?"

The results were not pretty. Bypass the entire chain of command with someone who is an untried punk?

Of course it worked because the writers MADE it work. But it was very unrealistic and annoying, as annoying as Spock's decision to (kill) strand Kirk on a planet with a big red "buy this Christmas toy in December" monster.

That wasn't the Spock I knew.

I like Kirk in command, obviously, but logic was thrown out the window in this case.

But back on topic, I loved Greenwood, minus that decision.
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Old February 18 2011, 06:30 PM   #8
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Loved Jeffery Hunter... Greenwood not so much. While I generally like Greenwood as an actor, I found his portrayal of Pike as rather bland.
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Old February 18 2011, 06:31 PM   #9
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Bland? He was commanding and strong. At least to me.
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Old February 18 2011, 06:44 PM   #10
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Understood. But the device for getting him there was poorly done. It's like "Oh hell, we have to have Kirk in charge and he's only just got out of the Academy. What should we do?"

The results were not pretty. Bypass the entire chain of command with someone who is an untried punk?

Of course it worked because the writers MADE it work. But it was very unrealistic and annoying, as annoying as Spock's decision to (kill) strand Kirk on a planet with a big red "buy this Christmas toy in December" monster.

That wasn't the Spock I knew.

I like Kirk in command, obviously, but logic was thrown out the window in this case.

But back on topic, I loved Greenwood, minus that decision.
Perfect post. Completely agree on every point.
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Old February 18 2011, 07:07 PM   #11
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Kennery (sp?) was what I'd expect from Hunter's Pike. A hero for saving cadets.
You can’t really call Sean Kenney’s turn as the crippled Pike “acting” — all he did was blink occasionally. He didn’t even do his own beeping.

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Old February 18 2011, 09:51 PM   #12
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Greenwood makes a new facet on the Pike character. For not being fans, the reboot writers did a great job with my idea of Pike
Where did you get the idea the writer's weren't fans? I think it well documented the the writers ( and the rest of the "Supreme Court") were fans of varying degrees.

Hunter was good, but the character was a little too serious. ( You can see traces of that in Season One Kirk and TNGs Picard) Shatner really changed how "the Captain" would be portrayed.

Never thought much about Kenney. The make up and SFX made the performance.

Greenwood was good. The tough older mentor type that challenges the young upstart.
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Old February 19 2011, 01:57 AM   #13
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Kennery (sp?) was what I'd expect from Hunter's Pike. A hero for saving cadets.
You can’t really call Sean Kenney’s turn as the crippled Pike “acting” — all he did was blink occasionally. He didn’t even do his own beeping.
well, I added him for nostalgia!

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Exactly!!!

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Greenwood makes a new facet on the Pike character. For not being fans, the reboot writers did a great job with my idea of Pike
Where did you get the idea the writer's weren't fans? I think it well documented the the writers ( and the rest of the "Supreme Court") were fans of varying degrees.

Hunter was good, but the character was a little too serious. ( You can see traces of that in Season One Kirk and TNGs Picard) Shatner really changed how "the Captain" would be portrayed.

Never thought much about Kenney. The make up and SFX made the performance.

Greenwood was good. The tough older mentor type that challenges the young upstart.
I misspoke/typed. I meant they weren't fanatics. not like we are anyway, or at least I got that impression from the behind the scenes on the 09 movie.
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Old February 19 2011, 02:27 AM   #14
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I believe one or two were "fanatic". Either Orci or Kurtzman and one other. (Lindelof?)
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Old February 19 2011, 10:19 AM   #15
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^ Unfortunately, they were overruled by JJ "Make it more like Star Wars" Abrams.

I refuse to see anything from that twerp ever again. Even blew off the last two seasons of "Lost" because of what he did in that movie.
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