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Old April 1 2011, 04:39 AM   #1
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UNES Longroad - First commissioned Warp Vessel

It had been 15 years since Cochrane's flight and the first meeting with Vulcans. Remarkable things had happened since then. Earth had finally recieved it's wake up call and boy, did we answer. We had gone from a world weary of battle all the way to an informal world government. Cities and nations had been rebuilt. Ever impatient we reached back to the heavens too. Cochrane showed us the way and the Vulcans represented the fulfillment of dreams. As soon as the first of the new heavy launchers was in production plans were put in place to build our own warp ships. The Vulcans were cautious in offering technology so we delved ahead with what we had. Not content to let someone else fly freely through our skies, we wanted to be able to meet as equals. So here we are after 15 years with the commissioning of Earth's first warp vessel.

The USS Longroad was an ugly duckling to say the least. She was built in a time when we were still re-learning how to get to orbit. There were no drydocks or space manufacturing. She was designed so every part of her could be built on earth and then strapped to the top of the largest rocket vehicles man would ever launch. Astronauts in clumsy space suits had to nudge parts together like giant lincoln logs. Through the whole process mistakes were made and people died, but we never shyed from the challenge.

The Longroad was slow, only 1.12 warp speed max. She doesn't have artificial gravity - the Vulcans are afraid to tell us how it's done. But we knew now that it could be done. Only a matter of time. So the ship was limited to 6 month missions with full crew swap out at the end. The crew of 18 would spend most of it's time on escort duty and rescue actions. Weapons? sure it's got one whole laser. Good for cutting things up in rescue missions or what have you.

When warp is not in use the ship had two trimodal fusion engines for maneuvering. Tankage was good for 1 hour at full thrust. Enough for changing orbits, but it won't get you much anywhere.

8 more were built though no 2 were the same due to how rapidly things advanced back then. Within 10 short years she was already obsolete - we'd cracked that pesky artificial gravity issue.

She was a stop gap measure and nothing more. Two were lost to equipment failure. One scuttled to prevent capture. The remaining 5 ended up in museums and private collections, with the USS Longroad ending up here in a corner of the Starfleet museum. Not many people notice the ugly duckling that gave rise to so many swans.


About the model:

As usual for me, it's not done but enough to see the idea. The idea as described in the above bit of fiction is that this is the first commissioned class of warp vessel by Earth. I went with the idea that we would be impatient to "catch up" with the Vulcans. This would lead to us not waiting on the proper infrastructure to build craft in space and instead launch major sections on HLV's So, the entire design can be broken down into pieces that will fit the 30'x80' cargo envelope of an imaginary launch vehicle.(the warp nacelles are 3 separate sections though it is hard to see).
Each of the three crew modules are 30' diameter and 80' long with 3 decks running longitudinally down each one.

Stats:
warp 1.12
18 crew
4 life boats/orbital craft that can hold 6 people each.(the cone shapes just aft of the main crew modules).
2 helium/deuterium fusion engines
1 laser
no gravity. everyone has to strap into flight chairs when maneuvering.

Questions/comments are welcome.




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Old April 1 2011, 10:26 AM   #2
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I like it, i don't find it ugly. It has this near-future grace to it. Besides, the first shot reminds me of the terran cruisers from Starcraft
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Old April 1 2011, 12:07 PM   #3
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I actually think this is a really interesting concept, and a fascinating take on such a vehicle!
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Old April 1 2011, 01:59 PM   #4
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Re: UNES Longroad - First commissioned Warp Vessel

Reminds me of a later vessel built during the Romulan War whose name I can't currently recall.

Yes, she is ugly compared the vessels that would proceed after her, but I can barely tell. That is what good modeling can do.

If I had to come up with an adequate description, I''d have to maybe call her primitive. She even looks a little jury-rigged, and that seems to match your description of her.
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Old April 1 2011, 02:43 PM   #5
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Re: UNES Longroad - First commissioned Warp Vessel

With only 6 month missions at Warp 1.12, I assume this was limited to our own solar system?

Nice modeling. You going to add any other details, like RCS thrusters? And I like that cupola near the front! Looks like people have to take turns gawking at Jupiter!
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Old April 1 2011, 03:03 PM   #6
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I like it. Very contemporary, yet Trekky looking. What is to come...

Anything navigational, communication, and deflector details to come?
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Old April 1 2011, 03:32 PM   #7
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Re: UNES Longroad - First commissioned Warp Vessel

It's nicely modeled, but I think that it's perhaps a little too ungainly and low-tech looking. The Phoenix looked much more advanced than this. I realise it's space ship building on an industrial level, but I still think it should look more like a ship and less like Mir.

BJ makes a good point as well. At those speeds a round trip to A.Centauri is just over 7 years, so they're not going to be leaving the solar system a lot.
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Old April 1 2011, 05:00 PM   #8
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I think it looks okay, although you might need to change your timeline a little - I'm pretty sure that by that point the SS Valiant and SS Conestoga have both been launched, and even the DY-100 had artificial gravity
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Old April 1 2011, 05:48 PM   #9
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^Nope, I'll stick to my timeline. Both of those ships present problems if they were built that soon and the AG on DY-100's just really screws things up technology progression wise.

Yea, the ship was never meant to leave the solar system. Think of it as a Coastguard Cutter protecting the local waters.
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It's nicely modeled, but I think that it's perhaps a little too ungainly and low-tech looking. The Phoenix looked much more advanced than this. I realise it's space ship building on an industrial level, but I still think it should look more like a ship and less like Mir..
The Phoenix had the benefit of it's size and limited use to make it look more advanced. This ship is supposed to look like we "brute forced" the technology we had just to get something "up there". The best comparison I can think of is all of the lifting body test articles NASA built compared to the full up Shuttle stack with it's boosters and external tank.

Now, the builders of this craft know she is very limited and not even very structurely sound. So, an interesting question is what do they build once they do get the hang of in space manufacturing and construction? That's a design I think would be interesting. How did we transition from this jumble of parts to a real integrated ship? What would it look like?


As for this model, yeah, lots of details to go. Com gear, Nav gear, windows, RCS, that laser (more of a tool than a weapon), other things I can't remember...

One idea I was toying with was the concept of heat radiators. In real world tech these would be big panels pointing like fan blades away from the ship. I was thinking maybe a breakthrough had been made where they had developed a "one sided" radiator that could be conformed to parts of the ship. This would be the first step in a skinned vessel. I was going to add it in certain areas to unify the look of the ship a bit, but worried that it might hide too much.
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Old April 1 2011, 06:26 PM   #10
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Re: UNES Longroad - First commissioned Warp Vessel

Looks good to me
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Old April 1 2011, 06:28 PM   #11
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One idea I was toying with was the concept of heat radiators. In real world tech these would be big panels pointing like fan blades away from the ship. I was thinking maybe a breakthrough had been made where they had developed a "one sided" radiator that could be conformed to parts of the ship. This would be the first step in a skinned vessel. I was going to add it in certain areas to unify the look of the ship a bit, but worried that it might hide too much.
Do a rough mockup and see how it turns out?
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Old April 1 2011, 10:21 PM   #12
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I was thinking, very vaguely, along these lines some time ago.

I was thinking about re-imagining the "ringship Enterprise" concept. Only my idea was not so much a ring as it was a collection of modules and nacelles that were connected to a pylon framework made to look like a ring. Each module or nacelle could be detached and replaced if the need called for it. Different modules could be attached for different missions. This kind of pseudo-ringship would be Earth's first crude attempt at a multi-purpose space vessel. (part explorer, part "cruiser", part cargo hauler, etc., before specialization was thought of)
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Old April 1 2011, 11:01 PM   #13
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I really like this a lot... nicely done.
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Old April 1 2011, 11:40 PM   #14
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It has a great jawline. And, even though the front of the ship is made of ISS module like containers, the cluster of them up front hints at the saucer section yet to come in the same position.
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Old April 1 2011, 11:51 PM   #15
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I like it, definitely has a rushed feature to it. I don't see where it could defend Earth.
The nacelles don't look anything like the ones used on the Phoenix, which looked the same on Enterprise.
The impulse engines really look primitive almost like booster rockets.
I say congrats.
What did it have for weapons(you said the laser was more of a tool)? Did it even have weapons?
What is its main power source?
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