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Old June 9 2015, 09:11 PM   #1
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Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

"2.5" because I already started on a "2.0" version several years ago, but I've since revisited it and decided to make it even more aquatic - the idea was to look to small launches and luxury yachts for detailing. Despite all that, it still looks like this :

WIP001:



WIP002:



WIP003:

(This was before I upscaled the entire thing to 140%)


WIP004 (starting on the interior):



WIP005 (detailing the berths in the bow):



WIP006 (more interior detail, and the 'airlock forcefield' set up on the main doorway - thanks to Madison Bruffy for the idea!):



WIP007 (focus on rebuilding the dashboard and controls):
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Old June 9 2015, 10:05 PM   #2
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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

Does it really need a scantily clad caricature of a woman?
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Old June 9 2015, 10:13 PM   #3
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Yes.

She's not really a caricature - I was trying to establish some scale, and she happened to be a figure I had already created and saved who was wearing a swimsuit. So "scantily clad" is, I think, overstating things - she's wearing a swimsuit on a boat, which is pretty much normal where I come from .
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Old June 9 2015, 10:19 PM   #4
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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

If you say so. Just keep kidding yourself on those points.
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Old June 9 2015, 10:23 PM   #5
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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

Hey, not my problem. I think I know my work better than anyone, and my motivations. You don't agree - that's your right, but don't tell me what I think.
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Old June 10 2015, 12:48 AM   #6
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she's wearing a swimsuit on a boat, which is pretty much normal where I come from .
I don't know why you wouldn't wear a swimsuit on a boat.
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Old June 10 2015, 01:47 AM   #7
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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

Well, I think the model is cool.

Is it too wide for the Enterprise's shuttlebay, though?

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Old June 10 2015, 02:03 AM   #8
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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

I'm not sold on the brown color, but I like the "planks" comprising the main deck up top. I've been considering them from the point of view of drainage and safety. From my (admittedly very limited) knowledge, it seems like all the channels between the "planks" running fore to aft would help keep water from pooling on deck, at least provided the overall drainage plan makes sense.

Speaking of safety, the existence of the hand grips around the bow berths and elsewhere implies that the craft is designed to run on the water with inertial dampeners not in use.

That said, it seems that there are both a lot of steps in the interior and especially steps without hand grips, both of which and especially the latter of which seem to be contrary to safety considerations.

And, yes, as MadMan1701A points out, the larger it gets, the less likely it will fit on the Enterprise. Even if it does fit on the hangar deck to land, it still has to get stowed somewhere (presumably).

Nevertheless, loving it.
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Old June 10 2015, 02:23 AM   #9
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I for one am disappointed any time I see a picture that does not include a girl in a bikini. Well done, sir.

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Re: Ptrope gets his feet wet - AquaShuttle 2.5

This takes the captain's yacht to a whole new level.
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Old June 10 2015, 03:39 AM   #11
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I'm not sold on the brown color, but I like the "planks" comprising the main deck up top. I've been considering them from the point of view of drainage and safety. From my (admittedly very limited) knowledge, it seems like all the channels between the "planks" running fore to aft would help keep water from pooling on deck, at least provided the overall drainage plan makes sense.
I was trying to provide an actual wood deck there, or whatever synthetic equivalent they could devise in the 23rd century that would have the look and feel of a quality teak deck (hence the color) but still survive the rigors of both space and high-speed submarine operations. It really is all about getting as much of a 'boat-like' feel as possible

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Speaking of safety, the existence of the hand grips around the bow berths and elsewhere implies that the craft is designed to run on the water with inertial dampeners not in use.

That said, it seems that there are both a lot of steps in the interior and especially steps without hand grips, both of which and especially the latter of which seem to be contrary to safety considerations.
Eh, only 2 steps up to the flight deck, 2 down again to the berths and the forward hatch, and the ones in the main doorway. The interior is still very much unfinished, so I will definitely be adding some more railings where I can, without being too intrusive. Being a 4-person shuttle, I don't know how much inertial dampening it even really would have. The grips along the berths were actually intended more for locomotion in a cramped space than for safety .

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And, yes, as MadMan1701A points out, the larger it gets, the less likely it will fit on the Enterprise. Even if it does fit on the hangar deck to land, it still has to get stowed somewhere (presumably).

Nevertheless, loving it.
Thanks! I'm still wondering about all that, myself . The aquashuttle in "The Ambergris Element" seemed to be pretty good-sized, and I don't know how much thought was ever given to stowage. Since we saw it only once, it's possible it was only brought aboard for specialized missions and was kept in the bay itself, only as long as it took to get to the mission destination. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

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Well, I think the model is cool.

Is it too wide for the Enterprise's shuttlebay, though?

-Ricky
And thanks, again! I'll have to do a comparison render - just another good excuse for an exterior shot! .
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Old June 10 2015, 03:39 AM   #12
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cardinal biggles wrote: View Post
This takes the captain's yacht to a whole new level.
Funny, I was having very similar thoughts .
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Old June 10 2015, 03:50 AM   #13
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Being a 4-person shuttle, I don't know how much inertial dampening it even really would have.
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It wouldn't be about the number of people aboard but how many gees it could pull while sublight and whether it's warp-capable. It's pretty much a given that all Star Trek vessels that are warp-capable have inertial dampeners to keep the crew from being straight-up killed while using the warp drive. I see a couple of warp nacelles there, and if it can get into orbit in a matter of seconds from class M planets, then it has to have inertial dampeners for that reason too.

But since they'd pretty much have to be there anyway, I was just pointing out that having them on either while the craft is on rough waters or while it's (aggressively) maneuvering on the surface would solve a lot of problems, including allowing the crew to move around inside without having to worry about, frankly, getting injured. But that's no reason not to think about how to move around, avoid falling, etc. when they're not on.

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Old June 10 2015, 04:27 AM   #14
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Well, one could always reason that the inertial dampers are only used when at warp or impulse speeds, and not while moving at the relatively slow speeds used while in 'aquatic' mode .
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Well, one could always reason that the inertial dampers are only used when at warp or impulse speeds, and not while moving at the relatively slow speeds used while in 'aquatic' mode .
Absolutely.
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