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Old June 12 2013, 05:08 PM   #1456
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The barrel scene in the book did not need to be another action scene, but the trailer is making it look like they're fighting in the barrels as they're going down the river (which is both stupid and probably physically impossible)


So you're moving on from "Man of Steel" to the "Hobbit"?

Did you watch the "Hobbit" Did you see the dwarves tossing CGI plates like they were nothing?

How about the dwarves sliding down a ledge on a rickety piece of wooden platform?

Or hanging on to a falling tree and everyone surviving. Not to mention giant eagles swooping in.

"Stupid" and "physically impossible" come with the territory of these movies.

So if they can fight in barrels going down a river then they can because it's fantasy epic.
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Old June 12 2013, 05:17 PM   #1457
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Are people gonna pick on this guy for every opinion he ever shares? Give him a break.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:17 PM   #1458
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Just thought I'd add my thoughts- I was shocked and thrilled that we got to see a glimpse of Smaug at the end. Can't wait to hear him!
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Old June 13 2013, 03:05 AM   #1459
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Yeah, I didn't expect to actually get that clear of a look at Smaug before the movie was released. He looks great.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:35 AM   #1460
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Yeah, I didn't expect to actually get that clear of a look at Smaug before the movie was released. He looks great.
We still haven't seen a clear shot of Smaug, sorry, but it's just his head. We've not seen his neck, body itself with the jewels platting his underside and his wings and tail. To be honest, I'm not surprised we saw so "little" of him in the trailer.

As for the Trailer itself, it looks good, of course Jackson has changed a few things, especially the Barrels scene, but roll on the 13th December.
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Old June 13 2013, 06:36 PM   #1461
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The barrel scene in the book did not need to be another action scene, but the trailer is making it look like they're fighting in the barrels as they're going down the river (which is both stupid and probably physically impossible)


So you're moving on from "Man of Steel" to the "Hobbit"?

Did you watch the "Hobbit" Did you see the dwarves tossing CGI plates like they were nothing?

How about the dwarves sliding down a ledge on a rickety piece of wooden platform?

Or hanging on to a falling tree and everyone surviving. Not to mention giant eagles swooping in.

"Stupid" and "physically impossible" come with the territory of these movies.

So if they can fight in barrels going down a river then they can because it's fantasy epic.
The physically impossible part wasn't the biggest problem, it just happened to be very noticable (there is no way those barrels would stay upright while going through very turbulent waters like they were). The scene was already good in the book. It was not an action scene, and doesn't need to be, but jackson seems to hate not having constant action. Its just an annoyance, but its one of the scenes that sticks out in the book, and seeing it turned into some kind of action fest just struck me as being stupid.

Also, I'm not "moving on" to the Hobbit. I love LOTR, the books and the movies. I liked the first Hobbit, despite its flaws. I'm excited for Hobbit 2, even with some of the weird stuff. That said, I am going to talk about the weird stuff, but this is a totally different situation than with MoS. That doesn't mkae this movie immune to criticism, but I'm not looking at this movie in a negative mood, I'm just talking about it. I'm sure I'll enjoy it when it comes out, but until then if I see something weird, I will probably mention it.
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Old June 13 2013, 07:21 PM   #1462
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Here's a video of Evangeline Lilly, Orlando Bloom and Lee Pace watching a fan reaction video to the trailer:

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Old June 13 2013, 07:36 PM   #1463
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That's pretty damn funny.
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Old June 13 2013, 07:53 PM   #1464
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That was wonderful.
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Old June 13 2013, 09:41 PM   #1465
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Okay, I admit. I smiled.
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Old June 13 2013, 10:22 PM   #1466
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Peter Jackson is a slasher movie director, once you realize that you'll be a peace with what kind of movie he makes.
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Old June 13 2013, 10:32 PM   #1467
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Peter Jackson is a slasher movie director, once you realize that you'll be a peace with what kind of movie he makes.
Jackson has stopped being a slasher movie director in the 90s.
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Old June 13 2013, 10:53 PM   #1468
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But it's still in his style, he's heaving on action and conflict.
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Old June 13 2013, 10:56 PM   #1469
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Jackson's slasher film past has nothing to do with it. A strong dose of action and conflict is part and parcel of blockbuster filmmaking in general.
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Old June 13 2013, 10:57 PM   #1470
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Sometimes it shines through, I agree. But I see it more in stuff like the flood of skulls in Return of the King. Or the bug pit scene in King Kong. He likes over the top gruesome stuff.

But action and conflict, that's not really a specific slasher director trademark, in my opinion.

I was actually surprised that The Fellowship of the Ring, one of the best films ever made IMHO, came from the director of Braindead and Frighteners. It's just so far away from and so high above the stuff he did before.
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