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Old December 8 2013, 09:46 PM   #1591
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Grading thread is up!

And Emh, I'm jealous. I might have to wait until the weekend after it premieres here in the US on the 13th to go and see it.
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Old April 24 2014, 08:22 PM   #1592
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The third movie will now be called The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

I'm a little disappointed because I did like "There and Back Again" as a title, but I think this change makes sense now that the story is a trilogy and not a duology. I think the original title worked better when it was just paired up with An Unexpected Journey.

In his announcement, Jackson also mentions that the Extended Edition of The Desolation of Smaug will feature at least 25 minutes of new footage, which is great news. I imagine most of that will be in the early section of the film, because (at least to me) it felt like they blew right through Bëorn and traveling through Mirkwood as quickly as possible.
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Old April 24 2014, 11:10 PM   #1593
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It's fine I guess. I loved the original title, though, because of the reference. It at least helps with the false ending problem when Smaug dies in the first act, though.
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Old April 25 2014, 12:53 AM   #1594
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This is why I wanted only two movies.

The Hobbit: There...
The Hobbit 2: ...and Back Again
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Old April 25 2014, 02:03 AM   #1595
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I did like There And Back Again quite a bit ... but The Battle of Five Armies is growing on me. I quite like it.
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Old April 25 2014, 02:13 AM   #1596
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I wonder if it's a bit long, though.
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Old April 25 2014, 02:33 AM   #1597
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^ Kind of summarizes the discussion in the thread.

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Old April 25 2014, 03:28 AM   #1598
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Hunh. Crazy thought.

What if Smaug is in the whole movie and participates in the battle?
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Old April 25 2014, 03:31 AM   #1599
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I think Tolkien fans would burn Peter Jackson in effigy. And it would make a waste of all the time building up the black arrow in the second movie.
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Old April 25 2014, 04:02 AM   #1600
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It's an interesting what-if bit of alternate history. Smaug could lead the Orc army!
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Old April 25 2014, 04:09 AM   #1601
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No, it isn't. It makes no sense storywise because it fundamentally changes what the Battle of Five Armies is all about. And even with all his alleged cinematic excess, Jackson would never go that route.
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Old April 25 2014, 04:29 AM   #1602
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His "alleged" excess?
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Old April 26 2014, 03:59 AM   #1603
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Aye. Some of us (and by "us" I am referring to me, myself and I) don't necessarily see it that way.
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Old April 26 2014, 09:28 AM   #1604
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Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

I agree with Peter Jackson's reasoning for changing the subtitle (whether it was recently or when the three-film was made) so I have no problem with it. Besides, "There and Back Again" already got its in-reference in Lord of the Rings.
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Old April 26 2014, 03:26 PM   #1605
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And it's got absolutely nothing to do with battles drawing more random people into the theatre then something as "wimpy" as "There and back again"

It's a cheap marketing ploy promising a big battle and it's also a big spoiler in the very title itself (for the many people who actually didn't read the books and don't spoil themselves on the internet).
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