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Old December 2 2013, 12:39 AM   #1576
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That's going to be tricky to pull off from a design standpoint. I don't imagine human lip movements translate well onto a long reptilian mouth. Indeed I think that's why the mouth of the dragon in 'Dragonheart' had an almost simian shape.
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Old December 2 2013, 03:35 AM   #1577
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Because the shots we've seen of Smaug so far have a very long stiff looking snout...
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Old December 2 2013, 01:40 PM   #1578
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^That'd be my guess, yeah. They've always said that the design of Smaug will be based on the traditional wyrm aesthetic. I'm pretty sure GMT cited Maleficent as one of the major design touchstones. What little we've seen seems consistent with that.

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Old December 4 2013, 10:17 PM   #1579
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Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release



Minute-long clip of Dale and Thorin with a brief glimpse of Stephen Fry as The Master of Laketown looking especially nasty.

Also, this is a lovely post from Sean Astin.
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Old December 4 2013, 10:29 PM   #1580
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Time Magazine names The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug 10th best film of 2013
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Old December 5 2013, 03:28 AM   #1581
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But not as good as "Furious 6" I guess.
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Old December 5 2013, 03:31 AM   #1582
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I just wish the trailers assumed the audience has the slightest clue about what's going on.

"Destroy the dragon and take back our homeland"

YES WE GET IT YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING THAT KAY THANKS.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:57 PM   #1583
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^To be fair, most of the audience will probably need reminding. The fans are going ot see the film regardless, trailers are generally targeting the wider audience.
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Old December 7 2013, 10:09 PM   #1584
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There's a spoiler review (the spoilers are at the bottom and warned about) at OneRing.com which go go into detail about the deviations from the book in this particular film.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013...splits-fandom/

I'll say this much, I am curious to see how it appears on screen.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:03 PM   #1585
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I don't want to read the spoilers. Is there a way you can give a spoiler-free indication about whether the changes are more in the nature of additions to or derivations from the original material?
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Old December 7 2013, 11:08 PM   #1586
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^The first half of the review is spoiler-free and he discusses that stuff in broad strokes. He gives plenty of forewarning before diving into the spoilery things. You'd be safe to read it; just stop at the white space.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:19 PM   #1587
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I read it. It was still too vague to answer my question. It's more of him just saying "wow" than saying whether it's related to new substantive additions or if, for example, Beorn is a villain now or something. I guess I can just wait and find out, though.

Although, if we want a fan outrage cliched phrase, I have a suggestion. How about "The Derivation of Smaug"?
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Old December 7 2013, 11:57 PM   #1588
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Looks like I should put up a grading thread for DoS. The world premiere was on the 6th and it releases worldwide next week.
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Old December 8 2013, 07:30 AM   #1589
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You better do it soon or I'll beat you to it. I'll be seeing it on the 11th when it's released here in Brussels.
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Old December 8 2013, 05:03 PM   #1590
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^Lucky you! I'll be seeing it on the 16th. I'm also avoiding reviews because I don't want more information than I already have from the book, but I'm glad to see that the general vibe is positive.

Considering the eventful part of the book that this movies covers, it's got every chance to be more entertaining than the first one.
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