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Old March 20 2011, 02:16 PM   #1
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Other '60s SF besides TOS?

I'm sitting here trying to remember: what other SF was on television during Star Trek's era?

I recall Lost In Space, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, Time Tunnel, Land Of The Giants, The Invaders, Dr. Who, UFO and reruns of the '50s The Adventures Of Superman.

What am I overlooking?
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Old March 20 2011, 04:02 PM   #2
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

Do you mean just from 1966-69? Let's see, that would exclude The Addams Family, The Munsters, and My Favorite Martian, which all ended a few months before TOS began, but they were no doubt on in syndicated reruns at the time. Looking over Wikipedia's category list of 1960s American TV series, and counting both SF and fantasy shows that aired contemporaneously with TOS, there's also:

Batman
Bewitched
Captain Nice
Dark Shadows
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir
The Green Hornet
I Dream of Jeannie
It's About Time
Mister Terrific
Tarzan
(maybe -- I don't know how genre-heavy it was)

I'd also make a case for Gilligan's Island, which often had SF/fantasy elements, and maybe for downright surreal sitcoms such as Green Acres and The Monkees (the latter of which featured aliens in its final episode). Most of the shows listed above are sitcoms; Captain Nice and Mister Terrific were short-lived superhero comedies knocking off the Batman craze, and It's About Time was about astronauts who went back to prehistory, though midway through its lone season, it was retooled with the astronaut and caveman characters coming to the present.

There were also animated shows like Filmation's various DC-superhero cartoons, Fantastic Voyage, and Journey to the Center of the Earth, and Terrytoons' The Mighty Heroes. And then there were the spy shows that often had SF elements, like The Avengers, Get Smart, The Man from UNCLE, The Girl From UNCLE, Mission: Impossible, and especially The Wild Wild West.

Looking at the list of 1960s British TV series turns up a few more:

DoDo, The Kid from Outer Space (animated)
Haunted (short-lived supernatural series)
The Prisoner (of course)
Witch Hunt (another short-lived supernatural series)

And of course Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons, and Joe 90.
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Old March 20 2011, 04:24 PM   #3
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

A fairly thorough list:

MAN INTO SPACE (1959-60)
THE TWILIGHT ZONE (1959-64)
THE NIGHT OF THE BIG HEAT (1960)
PATHFINDERS IN SPACE (1960)
A FOR ANDROMEDA (1961)
THE ANDROMEDA BREAKTHROUGH (1962)
THE AVENGERS (1962-69)
THE BIG PULL (1962)
FIREBALL XL-5 (1962-63)
OUT OF THIS WORLD (1962)
WHEN THE KISSING HAD TO STOP (1962)
DOCTOR WHO (1963-89)
MY FAVORITE MARTIAN (1963-66)
THE OUTER LIMITS (1963-65)
THE CAVES OF STEEL (1964)
THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. (1964-68)
MY LIVING DOLL (1964-65)
THE OTHER MAN (1964)
STINGRAY (1964-65)
VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA (1964-68)
LOST IN SPACE (1965-68)
OUT OF THE UNKNOWN (1965-69)
THUNDERBIRDS (1965-66)
THE WILD, WILD WEST (1965-69)
ADAM ADAMANT LIVES! (1966-67)
APE AND ESSENCE (1966)
BATMAN (1966-68)
DAYS TO COME (1966)
THE MASTER (1966)
STAR TREK (1966-69)
THE TIME TUNNEL (1966-67)
THE INVADERS (1967-68)
THE PRISONER (1967-68)
LAND OF THE GIANTS (1968-70)
THE YEAR OF THE SEX OLYMPICS (1968)
COUNTERSTRIKE (1969)
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Old March 20 2011, 05:06 PM   #4
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

I don't see how "Batman" could be considered to have elements of science fiction. Yes, there was that one episode in the third season "Joker's Flying Saucer", but that was clearly a hoax, as opposed to actual aliens landing on Earth.

Is there another episode I'm not remembering?
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Old March 20 2011, 06:04 PM   #5
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I don't see how "Batman" could be considered to have elements of science fiction. Yes, there was that one episode in the third season "Joker's Flying Saucer", but that was clearly a hoax, as opposed to actual aliens landing on Earth.
Science fiction isn't just about aliens and spaceships. It's about anything speculative and beyond existing reality that isn't specifically magical or supernatural. The very idea of a world inhabited by costumed superheroes and supervillains is speculative fiction, particularly when the heroes are duly deputized officers of the law.

Besides, Batman featured a ton of sci-fi technology. The atomic reactor, crime computer, and other gadgets in the Batcave, the jet-powered Batmobile with laser weapons, the Penguin's flying umbrellas, the dehydration ray from the movie, the countless weird, high-tech death traps that the villains wielded against the Dynamic Duo, etc. Then there's Mr. Freeze, a character who could only exist in a supercold environment -- hardly a realistic premise.
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Old March 20 2011, 07:39 PM   #6
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

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UFO
UFO was filmed mostly in 1969, but didn't premiere on TV until 1970. Unusually, the airing of the pilot came just after production had finished on the last of the twenty-six episodes.
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Old March 20 2011, 08:11 PM   #7
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RandyS wrote: View Post
I don't see how "Batman" could be considered to have elements of science fiction. Yes, there was that one episode in the third season "Joker's Flying Saucer", but that was clearly a hoax, as opposed to actual aliens landing on Earth.

Is there another episode I'm not remembering?

Well, you have to remeber 'batman' was a HUGE hit at the time (the 1966 Batman motion picture was made in th hiatus between Seasons 1 and 2 because there was such a phenomenon); and it's syuccess had a large inpact on Star Trek, the Irwin Allen shows of the era, The Wild Wild West, etc.
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For example I think the style changes in TOS season 3 were influnced by 'what was popular' (ie Batman); and it's one reason they didn't have an issue with the more campy aspects of a lot od Sreason 3; as it was scene as 'popular' by the TV industry of the time.
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Old March 20 2011, 08:25 PM   #8
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

What about H.R. Pufnstuf, which debuted in 1969? If we cover the whole sixties, then not to mention The Jetsons, and also The Flintstones with the Great Gazoo.
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Old March 20 2011, 09:47 PM   #9
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

Of course, there were many TV shows of the '60s whose format may have been mainstream, but who had one or two episodes which treated SF/fantasy elements as being grounded in reality.
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Old March 20 2011, 10:30 PM   #10
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I don't see how "Batman" could be considered to have elements of science fiction. Yes, there was that one episode in the third season "Joker's Flying Saucer", but that was clearly a hoax, as opposed to actual aliens landing on Earth.

Is there another episode I'm not remembering?
The entire Batcave and everything in it on the TV show is science fiction.
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Old March 20 2011, 10:46 PM   #11
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Re: Other '60s SF besides TOS?

No one's mentioned Roberta Leigh's "Space Patrol"! Extraordinary stuff.
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Old March 20 2011, 11:00 PM   #12
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What about H.R. Pufnstuf, which debuted in 1969? If we cover the whole sixties, then not to mention The Jetsons, and also The Flintstones with the Great Gazoo.
If you're going to mention cartoons, then you've got hundreds to choose from.

I'm disappointed no one mentioned ULTRAMAN...
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Old March 20 2011, 11:05 PM   #13
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I'm disappointed no one mentioned ULTRAMAN...
You did! Ultraman left a mark on me for its weirdness.
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Old March 21 2011, 12:44 AM   #14
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(the 1966 Batman motion picture was made in th hiatus between Seasons 1 and 2 because there was such a phenomenon)
Actually the original plan was to make the movie first as a pilot for the show, and as a way to take advantage of the feature-film budget to build vehicles, sets, etc. that would then be reused in the show. But ABC was having a bad season, so they moved up the premiere date for Batman so they'd have something to replace their bombing shows with as soon as possible, and thus the movie had to be postponed until after the first season (which is why the Batcopter and Batboat, built for the movie, didn't begin appearing on the show until season 2, and then only in stock footage from the movie). So it's not correct to say that the movie was made as a result of the show's success. They were going to make it anyway.

Which is not to discount the fact that Batman was indeed a huge cultural phenomenon for a couple of years.
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Old March 21 2011, 01:08 AM   #15
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Tarzan was straight action/adventure. I dont recall any Lost Civilizations or any of the other fantastic elements of the novels or movies appearing.
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