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Old July 22 2010, 01:42 PM   #1
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business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make money'

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Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make money. More please!

director Christopher Nolan came up with his Inception which can be termed as a challenging, daring, cerebral science fiction thriller. And guess what? It managed to earn as much as $60 million over the weekend, thereby hitting the high end of nearly every industry estimate for the film.
Perhaps we'll see more scifi films at the cinema in 2012-2016 (since Hollywood runs in cycles).
Of course they will be scifi action or scifi horror or scifi thriller films...
I'm going to see Inception with my brother tomorrow night and am pretty excited. I was told it kind of requires multiple viewings due to complexity of story elements. (That's one of the reasons I liked Primer.)

I'm already looking forward to next year's "Contagion" 3-D virus thriller dir. by Steven Soderbergh .
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Old July 22 2010, 06:16 PM   #2
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

But it's not space opera sci-fi, it's barely even sci-fi at all. It's just a good movie and it proves good movies can make money.
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Old July 22 2010, 09:09 PM   #3
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

That's nice - but to me, the real problem is getting good sci fi on TV to make money.

But it's not space opera sci-fi
I'd call Avatar space opera, and I think it did okay for itself. Not to mention that lil Star Trek flick last year.

However, I don't see why a story about people manipulating other people's dreams is "less" sci fi than a story about people flying around in spaceships to alien worlds.
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Old July 22 2010, 10:16 PM   #4
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However, I don't see why a story about people manipulating other people's dreams is "less" sci fi than a story about people flying around in spaceships to alien worlds.
Avatar and Star Trek LOOKED nice, but story wise were jokes.

Because we are much closer to going inside people's dreams than we are to get on space ships. I doubt we will have space ships like Avatar and Star Trek within the next 100-150 years, but I bet we will be able to go into people's minds within 25. The only thing really stopping it is the ethics of it.

And I guess you never had a shared dream, we are already in the Inception world.
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Old July 23 2010, 12:24 AM   #5
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
to me, the real problem is getting good sci fi on TV to make money.
It is a major issue with scifi fans as we want more product on TV but the model is based on ratings. Sci Fi genre does not get great ratings.
Perhaps that will change with Nielsen's new abilities with DVRs and Hulu and network website downloads included in the counts for live+3 and live+7 day totals...
A channel that has a niche of Sci Fi refuses to program only science fiction genre television [COUGH] SyFy [COUGH] and include entirely unrelated programming.


In keeping with the thread title on topic I hope more scifi films get greenlit for the cinema. Maybe even some sci fi horror films set on space ships ala Event Horizon (1997) & the Alien prequel due after 2011.

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Old July 23 2010, 12:33 AM   #6
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

No shit?

The incessant whining of genre fans for 'more' aside, sci-fi is everywhere. And a lot of it is successful.
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Old July 23 2010, 01:22 AM   #7
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Because we are much closer to going inside people's dreams than we are to get on space ships.
Near-future sci fi is not "less" sci fi than the wildly speculative stuff. I won't comment on the shared-dream stuff except to say that I suspect that did happen to me and someone I know recently...fairly innocuous but weirdly coincidental...

It is a major issue with scifi fans as we want more product on TV but the model is based on ratings. Sci Fi genre does not get great ratings.
Perhaps that will change with Nielsen's new abilities with DVRs and Hulu and network website downloads included in the counts for live+3 and live+7 day totals...
It'll do the opposite, show advertisers that sci fi fans zap ads. Then they'll all move their ads to the cop shows whose fans can't use a DVR.
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Old July 23 2010, 02:06 AM   #8
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

Yeah, just because it doesn't have ships doesn't make it any less sci-fi. Sci-fi incorporates many elements, many of them being contemporary. Sci-Fi is kind of like Science of the impossible, bringing ideas to life that would otherwise be impossible.
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Old July 23 2010, 05:25 AM   #9
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^ And what I'm saying is it's not impossible, thus making it science and not fiction.
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Old July 23 2010, 05:30 AM   #10
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Make way for "Inception" the TV series produced by Chris Nolan.
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Old July 23 2010, 12:34 PM   #11
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Re: business aspect - 'Inception proves good sci-fi movies can make mo

Inception is very much a sci-fi film; and as observed space opera (Star Trek) and its related genre of planetary romance (Avatar) did damn well at the box office last year.

A better point of comparison would be, say, The Matrix; a financially successful film that combined bending reality and fantasy with an action vehicle... only, candidly, Inception is a bit smarter then the Wachkowski opus. It's a proof that with the right action and statkes, even films that deal with psychological dream-based sci-fi can make money.

Which you know is a good thing.
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Old July 23 2010, 12:54 PM   #12
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I do wonder how much box office grab Inception would have gotten if it wasn't by "The Director of The Dark Knight".
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Old July 23 2010, 01:07 PM   #13
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I do wonder how much box office grab Inception would have gotten if it wasn't by "The Director of The Dark Knight".
It wouldn't have even been made, quite likely.
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Old July 23 2010, 02:21 PM   #14
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I do wonder how much box office grab Inception would have gotten if it wasn't by "The Director of The Dark Knight".
The same could be said about having a batman film named "The Dark Knight"
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But it's not space opera sci-fi, it's barely even sci-fi at all. It's just a good movie and it proves good movies can make money.
Uh... how is a movie about going inside other people's dreams not sci-fi? Avatar and Star Trek are also sci-fi. What, are we going to turn this thread into another pissing match about what can rightly call itself "sci-fi" and what can't, to placate the delicate sensibilities of a minority of elitist nerds? I'll pass.
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