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Old April 14 2011, 07:46 PM   #16
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

Isn't there an arboreteum in the refit-Constitution-class, where there's five big windows on each side in the lower secondary hull?
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Old April 14 2011, 07:57 PM   #17
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

Yep. In the closing shot of TMP, the outline of trees are visible in the windows.
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Old April 14 2011, 09:06 PM   #18
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tmphd2825.jpg

Hard to tell if those are trees, or just some ceiling machinery that's necessary for operating the fightercraft stored in those side-by-side launch bays.

Or perhaps slush deuterium slushing around...

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Old April 16 2011, 05:11 AM   #19
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

Timo wrote: View Post
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tmphd2825.jpg

Hard to tell if those are trees, or just some ceiling machinery that's necessary for operating the fightercraft stored in those side-by-side launch bays.

Or perhaps slush deuterium slushing around...

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Yep, or that's where the SF Engineers moved the glowing spinners on the TOS nacelles to have them glowing in engineering hull instead

We know from looking at the physical model that is what's there but from what's been up on the screen it's impossible to tell with the different angles and the slightly frosted glowing windows
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Old April 25 2011, 10:24 PM   #20
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

I always thought the undercut of Excelsior was rather extreme. Instead of just proposing a small drop ship goes there in the small cut out, imagine if a "Complete Excelsior secondary hul was shaped like the Oberth/Grisson. Continue the curve of the secondary hull up just under the tail, terminating just below the aft torp tubes.

This long smooth pod could invert and land, looking like a curvy wedge on the ground.

BTW: Nice drawings of Excelsior here:
http://subodeon.proboards.com/index....ad=2023&page=5

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Old April 26 2011, 08:32 AM   #21
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Re: What's in the Excelsior/Enterprise-B/Lakota shuttlebay?

Expanding on that idea, the undercut of the Excelsior would nicely accommodate a cargo pod like the ones drawn up by Franz Joseph.

Indeed, if you scale the two DS9 Excelsior kitbashes by their Miranda style nacelles, you get a more modern version of the Franz Joseph cargo tug, with a somewhat more extensive grapple that happens to have the navigational deflector integrated to its bow... If you scale it according to the saucer, you can postulate a larger cargo pod for the 24th century, and then claim that the Excelsior herself was also configured to tow such things, by virtue of that fancy grapplework inside the ventral cavity.

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