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Old July 9 2012, 01:44 PM   #136
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Re: DS9 Millennium

Good point.

*double checks*

It's actually 2401, but thats still the turn of a new century and not a millennium....
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Old July 9 2012, 02:09 PM   #137
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I'll ask a really dumb question. Why is it called DS9:Millenium? As far as I recall the story takes place in the 2370's, not 3000 or 2000 (which is when it was written)
The concept of the millennium is often associated with the Biblical Apocalypse. In fact, the association is so close that apocalyptic beliefs are often called millennarianism or chiliasm (from the Greek for a thousand). So the term "millennium" is figuratively associated with the end of the world or the advent of Heaven on Earth. So it had a thematic relevance to the events of the trilogy, beyond its literal numerical meaning.

Plus there's also the little fact that it was published in the year 2000.
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Old July 9 2012, 02:14 PM   #138
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Plus there's also the little fact that it was published in the year 2000.
That is as may be, but it is not usual for a work of fiction title to reference where/when it was written. A book title usually conveys to the potential reader what is within. You're "millennarianism" explanation is a good one and one I am willing to accept until told otherwise by the authors.
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Old July 9 2012, 02:24 PM   #139
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Plus there's also the little fact that it was published in the year 2000.
That is as may be, but it is not usual for a work of fiction title to reference where/when it was written. A book title usually conveys to the potential reader what is within.
Yeah, but the millennium wasn't exactly a usual year. And it's perfectly possible for a title to have two or more meanings, including an external meaning as well as one relevant to the story. It's pretty obvious that it's not a coincidence if a book published in 2000 is titled Millennium. After all, the authors would've known perfectly well that it would be published in that year, and it stands to reason that they would've chosen its story emphasis accordingly.
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Old July 9 2012, 04:07 PM   #140
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Plus there's also the little fact that it was published in the year 2000.
That is as may be, but it is not usual for a work of fiction title to reference where/when it was written. A book title usually conveys to the potential reader what is within.
Yeah, but the millennium wasn't exactly a usual year. And it's perfectly possible for a title to have two or more meanings, including an external meaning as well as one relevant to the story. It's pretty obvious that it's not a coincidence if a book published in 2000 is titled Millennium. After all, the authors would've known perfectly well that it would be published in that year, and it stands to reason that they would've chosen its story emphasis accordingly.
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Old July 9 2012, 08:46 PM   #141
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apocalyptic beliefs are often called millennarianism or chiliasm (from the Greek for a thousand).
Chiliasm...never heard of that one. Although some chili can be apocalyptic if it's cooked the right way.
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Old July 14 2012, 05:01 PM   #142
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I also feel like there's an offhand mention of 2401 being the "end of Bajor's XXX Millennium" in the book. Worf even offers that that is also a major year in the Klingon Calendar cycle.
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Old July 15 2012, 10:56 PM   #143
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^ And also the "Orthodox Andorian Vengeance Cycle".
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That is as may be, but it is not usual for a work of fiction title to reference where/when it was written. A book title usually conveys to the potential reader what is within.
Yeah, but the millennium wasn't exactly a usual year. And it's perfectly possible for a title to have two or more meanings, including an external meaning as well as one relevant to the story. It's pretty obvious that it's not a coincidence if a book published in 2000 is titled Millennium. After all, the authors would've known perfectly well that it would be published in that year, and it stands to reason that they would've chosen its story emphasis accordingly.
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