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Old March 9 2011, 08:45 PM   #31
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Re: Diana Muldaur and the TNG cast

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By the way, there were rumblings that Patrick Stewart was unhappy with his contract and did some kind of negotiation during the hiatus between "The Best of Both Worlds" Parts 1 & 2. His transformation as Locutus was a safety net in case he negotiated to leave.
Does that mean that Elizabeth Denehey was on stand-by to join the regular cast as First Officer Shelby, with Jonathan Frakes promoted to main series lead?
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Old March 11 2011, 09:27 PM   #32
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Does that mean that Elizabeth Denehey was on stand-by to join the regular cast as First Officer Shelby, with Jonathan Frakes promoted to main series lead?
Yes.
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Old March 12 2011, 11:07 PM   #33
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there's a lot of pulaski-hate on this board
well, the character was a bitch so..
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Old March 20 2011, 03:31 AM   #34
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Re: Diana Muldaur and the TNG cast

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there's a lot of pulaski-hate on this board
well, the character was a bitch so..
She was cute little chick. If I was Mister Data i would have been quite cross I was passed over for a newcomer of the same rank after I'd worked there for 3 whole years!
I bed Will Riker secretly liked him and they would hook up and make the useless Troi feel even more useless. No not really but that would have made me happy.
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Old March 20 2011, 03:36 PM   #35
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I bed Will Riker secretly....
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Old March 20 2011, 08:55 PM   #36
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Does that mean that Elizabeth Denehey was on stand-by to join the regular cast as First Officer Shelby, with Jonathan Frakes promoted to main series lead?
As much as I liked the Shelby character, I felt like they didn't really know what to do with her in BOBW Part II. Once Riker became captain, the conflict between the two characters seemed to disappear. Suddenly Riker emerged as the one who knew how to fight the Borg while Shelby just kind of disappeared into the background. And given the Star Trek's less-than-stellar track record for writing female characters, I can only imagine how much they would've ruined the Shelby character over time. Would they put her in a tight catsuit? Would they have her become romantically involved with Worf? Would they tease the audience by suggesting that there was an attraction between her and Riker? And how would her being the first officer have affected the shows that followed? Would Kira still have been female? And if not, would they have made Sisko female instead? And what about Voyager? If Sisko had been female, then they wouldn't have felt pressure to cast a female captain on Voyager. It's interesting to think about differently things would've turned out had Patrick Stewart not stayed with the show.
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Old March 27 2011, 04:51 AM   #37
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there's a lot of pulaski-hate on this board
well, the character was a bitch so..
She was a lot more believable than Crusher that's for sure. You don't get to be CMO and be as nice as Beverly.

I'm Pro-Pulaski and proud of it.
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Old March 30 2011, 10:39 PM   #38
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She was a lot more believable than Crusher that's for sure. You don't get to be CMO and be as nice as Beverly.

I'm Pro-Pulaski and proud of it.
I think the mistake the TNG producers made was in thinking they could recapture some of the Kirk/Spock/McCoy chemistry. The problem was that Picard wasn't Kirk and Data, despite being the unemotional one, wasn't really like Spock. If anyone was Spock, it was Picard. Calm, cool, logical and a bit arrogant. Data was Pinocchio. So when Pulaski started picking on him, it made the audience instantly dislike her. McCoy, despite being cantankerous, was made likeable by the fact that he was friends with Kirk. It showed the audience that he isn't just this cranky guy. But Pulaski wasn't friends with anyone so it was hard for the audience to like her.
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Old March 30 2011, 11:02 PM   #39
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^^^ Pulaski was friends with Worf. More than friends...
Don't make me quote examples.
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Old March 31 2011, 05:10 AM   #40
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I read a quote from a producer or director in one of the TNG episode guides that Muldaur needed cue cards to remember her lines. That didn't strike me as a way to make a good impression on the cast and crew.
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Old March 31 2011, 05:23 PM   #41
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I read a quote from a producer or director in one of the TNG episode guides that Muldaur needed cue cards to remember her lines. That didn't strike me as a way to make a good impression on the cast and crew.
Hard to say if that's true. But I've heard the same thing about Robert Beltran. At least Muldaur was older and perhaps her memory was beginning to fade. What's Beltran's excuse. Oh that's right. He didn't care for the writing. Muldaur went from Star Trek to L.A. Law and was on that show for 2 seasons. Something tells me they wouldn't have kept her around that long if she was having trouble remembering her lines.
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Old March 31 2011, 05:58 PM   #42
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It was a standard five-year contract
That seems a bit presumptuous of them, considering that TNG might not even have lasted five years or more.
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Old March 31 2011, 08:51 PM   #43
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It was a standard five-year contract
That seems a bit presumptuous of them, considering that TNG might not even have lasted five years or more.
No, it's just playing it safe. Most shows don't even last a year. But if you got a hit, you obviously don't want to have to renegotiate salaries every year. In my line of work, I could sign a 1 year contract for a project, but that project might get cancelled after 3 months. Is the employer being presumptuous by signing me up for a year? No. They're just planning ahead in case things go well.
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Old March 31 2011, 09:13 PM   #44
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I read a quote from a producer or director in one of the TNG episode guides that Muldaur needed cue cards to remember her lines. That didn't strike me as a way to make a good impression on the cast and crew.
First up, biased because Muldaur fan.

Not sure if cue cards are some sort of trek urban myth. But even if not, other actors used them (Brando) or maybe Muldaur just needed them for techno-babble.

As others have said, if inference is Muldaur bad actress, then surprising to go from TNG to LA Law and win TWO Emmy noms.
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Old March 31 2011, 09:40 PM   #45
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Re: Diana Muldaur and the TNG cast

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It was a standard five-year contract
That seems a bit presumptuous of them, considering that TNG might not even have lasted five years or more.
Almost every show in Hollywood - even those that end up running 13 or so years - try to sign up their actors to the standard five-year contract. It means big contract negotiations after five successful years, which could blow the budget out of the water, but it also provides a continuity of service.

If the show lasts less than a year, it doesn't mean the actors get paid for another four years. A five-year contract simply locks in the salary (and royalties) scale and stops actors making huge demands in a show's early years, especially if its ratings suddenly become huge. Or jumping ship. For example, when Denise Crosby and Wil Wheaton asked to leave TNG early, Paramount could have refused.

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Not sure if cue cards are some sort of trek urban myth.
I own Majel Barrett and Michael Berryman cue cards from ST IV. Nimoy wanted them to read cue cards for their dialogue in the probe weather disaster scenes to give those scenes a certain unrehearsed urgency.
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