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Old February 21 2011, 02:31 PM   #16
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Re: NX01 Refit

I love the NX-01 refit design!
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Old February 28 2011, 02:55 PM   #17
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I'm Sorry but that is just plain horrible
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Old February 28 2011, 03:28 PM   #18
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I didn't like it to start with but it's grown on me. Leaving a deflector disc on the saucer as a redundancy bothered me to be honest and I even asked Doug Drexler over on his site, if he thought the secondary hull ought to be that big. I'd seen other fan attempts, where one fitted in further back, underneath the two main pylons holding impulse engines on either side. I forget what his response was, but he took my rookie question in good humour. His answer I think, was that adding a smaller hull wouldn't be bold enough a change.



I've had quite a bit of fun, in the months since, imagining a continuing series in which the refit happened. I'd love to think this kind of alteration happened for the NX-01 during its lifetime, in the way the NCC-1701 underwent changes between TOS and TMP, albeit not as radical.
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Old March 6 2011, 04:00 AM   #19
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I don't care much for it. I don't mind the refit having a secondary hull, but the style looks atrocious. A smaller secondary hull, bolted directly underneath the rear of the saucer section, would be more in line IMO.
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Old March 6 2011, 03:20 PM   #20
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Re: NX01 Refit

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I've had quite a bit of fun, in the months since, imagining a continuing series in which the refit happened. I'd love to think this kind of alteration happened for the NX-01 during its lifetime, in the way the NCC-1701 underwent changes between TOS and TMP, albeit not as radical.
I think this 'refit' is every bit as radical as the one the Enterprise underwent in TMP. Internally the NX-01 is probably a radically different ship.
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Old March 6 2011, 05:54 PM   #21
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Internally, NX-01 isn't altered much at all with this refit. Even the original warp core is still in place.
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Old March 6 2011, 07:32 PM   #22
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Internally, NX-01 isn't altered much at all with this refit. Even the original warp core is still in place.
Then what exactly is the secondary hull for? Grain transport? And why does it have straight line connections to the warp nacelles?
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Old March 6 2011, 09:22 PM   #23
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Internally, NX-01 isn't altered much at all with this refit. Even the original warp core is still in place.
Then what exactly is the secondary hull for? Grain transport?
Just to make it look more like the TOS Enterprise, basically.

I prefer to ignore the deflector dish on the saucer section and imagine that the secondary hull was added to house a new and more advanced (but much larger) warp core and deflector dish, so they moved engineering, deflector control, and the shuttlebay down to the new hull, then used all that extra space created in the saucer section to add new sensor suites, weapon upgrades, etc.
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Old March 6 2011, 10:18 PM   #24
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Internally, NX-01 isn't altered much at all with this refit. Even the original warp core is still in place.
Then what exactly is the secondary hull for? Grain transport?
Just to make it look more like the TOS Enterprise, basically.

I prefer to ignore the deflector dish on the saucer section and imagine that the secondary hull was added to house a new and more advanced (but much larger) warp core and deflector dish, so they moved engineering, deflector control, and the shuttlebay down to the new hull, then used all that extra space created in the saucer section to add new sensor suites, weapon upgrades, etc.
So the NX-01 refit would be massively different internally?
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Old March 6 2011, 11:27 PM   #25
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The secondary hull houses a more powerful warp core, enabling the ship go a lot faster and a lot further, but it's an add-on to the existing ship, so the original warp core, and the original engine room, is still there, basically as a backup.

So, NO, the ship is not massively different internally.
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Old March 6 2011, 11:27 PM   #26
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So the NX-01 refit would be massively different internally?
Only in my mind. Not in the mind of Doug Drexler.
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Old March 6 2011, 11:51 PM   #27
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The secondary hull houses a more powerful warp core, enabling the ship go a lot faster and a lot further, but it's an add-on to the existing ship, so the original warp core, and the original engine room, is still there, basically as a backup.

So, NO, the ship is not massively different internally.
It doesn't really make a lot of sense to bolt on a secondary hull to a deep space explorer that offers no additional capacity to the ship (crew, science labs, weapons, supplies). And wouldn't the nacelles and support struts have to increase in size to accommodate two different warp drives with different power levels feeding them? Not to mention that even with a more powerful warp core you probably wouldn't gain much in the way of speed without larger warp coils... which would necessitate new warp nacelles.

I like a lot of Drexler's work... but the NX-01 refit just comes across as plain lazy.
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Old March 8 2011, 04:45 PM   #28
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So is this what the enterprise looks like in the ROMULAN war ? If it is I can understand why it looks so butch . So I am guesing the crew complement has doubled or possible even trippled . It should'nt even be considered a nx class anymore it look like a battleship.
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Old March 8 2011, 04:55 PM   #29
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It doesn't look bad, but it would not have been needed. The NX01 looked fine as is.

Kinda moot and I guess we will never know if they would actually have gone through with it.
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Old March 8 2011, 05:39 PM   #30
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You know I'm in complete shock that the refit works.

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