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Old February 12 2011, 02:08 AM   #1
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Trek and Evolution

For the sake of this thread, ignore religious beliefs and accept the theory of evolution.

So what would the major Trek races be evolved from? Is there enough info in Trek lore to even answer, or would it all be speculation?
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Old February 12 2011, 02:32 AM   #2
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The Preservers.

Also, this very question was answered TNG's The Chase.
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Old February 12 2011, 07:04 AM   #3
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For the sake of this thread, ignore religious beliefs and accept the theory of evolution.

So what would the major Trek races be evolved from? Is there enough info in Trek lore to even answer, or would it all be speculation?
It would all be speculation. It would be species native to their homeworlds that we the audience haven't seen and for which there's no terrestrial analogue.
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Old February 12 2011, 03:35 PM   #4
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Somewhere on Vulcan, there are apes with pointed ears and can do the nerve pinch thing.

On the Klingon homeworld, there are ridged-forehead gorilla like creatures that act more like rabid chimps.
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Old February 12 2011, 03:55 PM   #5
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didnt barclay evolve from a spider or something? twisted space pokemon.
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Old February 12 2011, 05:08 PM   #6
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^No, he had the spider DNA in him from when Miles' spider bit him. Yes, it's canon!
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Old February 12 2011, 05:27 PM   #7
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^:x

Trek gets evolutionary history less right than it does particle physics.

Anyway, of course pretty much everybody in the Trek universe is going to come from recent ancestors that are more or less physically analogous to primates, because--well, look at them, they're physically analogous to primates.

What would be interesting and fun is to construct a plausible evolutionary path and functioning biosphere for beings like the Horta.
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Old February 12 2011, 05:43 PM   #8
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^Nematode-like creatures that switched from wood-boring life to stone-boring life....
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Old February 12 2011, 05:44 PM   #9
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Re: Trek and Evolution

If you go by TOS, each planet evolved separately and, because of Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development, ended up looking very human, and with surroundings that mimicked almost exactly the Desilu backlot.

If you go by TNG, it's the Preservers.
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Old February 12 2011, 06:25 PM   #10
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^um... the Preservers is a TOS species. The Preservers were never mentioned on TNG. The aliens responsible for the whole thing in The Chase was never named.
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Old February 12 2011, 07:08 PM   #11
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What would be interesting and fun is to construct a plausible evolutionary path and functioning biosphere for beings like the Horta.
We don't really know what the conditions on the surface were like.

The Horta might have begun there, but there were bigger and badder things about and the Horta started digging burrows and tunnels ... things progressed from there.

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Old February 12 2011, 11:30 PM   #12
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If you go by TOS, each planet evolved separately and, because of Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development, ended up looking very human, and with surroundings that mimicked almost exactly the Desilu backlot.

If you go by TNG, it's the Preservers.
The Preservers were established as the universal evolutionary origin in TOS The Paradise Syndrome.

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^um... the Preservers is a TOS species. The Preservers were never mentioned on TNG. The aliens responsible for the whole thing in The Chase was never named.
Wasn't there an early draft of the script that did establish that humanoid was a Preserver? I know, it never made into the show and therefore is not canon.
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Old February 12 2011, 11:34 PM   #13
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Andorians could have evolved from Smurfs.
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Old February 12 2011, 11:35 PM   #14
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^^I don't remember Smurfs having ice powers. Or did those develop later on in the evolutionary process?
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Old February 12 2011, 11:36 PM   #15
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Andorians could have evolved from Smurfs.
I can get behind that.
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