CGI goddess RAPUNZEL from TANGLED appreciation thread. - Page 2

Christopher · February 12 2011, 04:41 PM

tharpdevenport wrote:

"Wall-E" was okay, but I didn't like the left-leaning political stuff hiding away in a few parts.

What "left-leaning" stuff? Do you mean the environmental message? Did you know Richard Nixon founded the EPA? And of course Teddy Roosevelt was big on preserving nature. Before Reagan turned the Republicans into the party of big business, they were the pioneers of the environmentalist movement, seeing conservation as a logical outgrowth of conservatism. It's not a partisan message that it's a good idea to keep our home clean and livable. It's just common sense.

And one could just as easily read a "right-leaning" message into the film's critique of the effortless, coddled life aboard the starship; that could be seen as an allegory for the welfare system, with the message being that people need to reject handouts and embrace hard work.

Bishop76 · February 12 2011, 04:57 PM

Am I the only one a little bit creeped out by this thread?

Mutara Nebula 1967 · February 12 2011, 05:20 PM

Bishop76 wrote:

Am I the only one a little bit creeped out by this thread?

It would seem so...as there is nothing wrong with admiring true beauty even if its created from pixels and CGI.

Klaus · February 12 2011, 05:24 PM

Mutara Nebula 1967 wrote:

Bishop76 wrote:

Am I the only one a little bit creeped out by this thread?

It would seem so...as there is nothing wrong with admiring true beauty even if its created from pixels and CGI.

...as long as you leave the tentacles *ahem* out of it.

Corran Horn · February 12 2011, 05:30 PM

Kelso wrote:

tharpdevenport wrote:

"Wall-E" was okay, but I didn't like the left-leaning political stuff hiding away in a few parts.

Thanks, I just spit all over my keyboard!

Apparently saying we may one day produce so much garbage the planet will be trashed is 'left leaning'.

Mr. Adventure · February 12 2011, 05:31 PM

Mutara Nebula 1967 wrote:

Bishop76 wrote:

Am I the only one a little bit creeped out by this thread?

It would seem so...as there is nothing wrong with admiring true beauty even if its created from pixels and CGI.

Especially these days when most "real" magazine photos have been more than a little manipulated in Photoshop.

As for me I didn't really find Rapunzel so lustworthy maybe because they really sold her as a sweet young girl. I thought it was a pretty good film, one I actually enjoyed watching with my niece, not just someting you tolerated for the kids.

Bishop76 · February 12 2011, 05:37 PM

Mr. Adventure wrote:

As for me I didn't really find Rapunzel so lustworthy maybe because they really sold her as a sweet young girl.

That's kind of why I find this disturbing.

Christopher · February 12 2011, 06:36 PM

^Oh, come on. Admiring beauty is not equivalent to lust or sexual possessiveness. Especially when it's the beauty of a cartoon character with no physical existence.

Although I don't agree that they portrayed Rapunzel as a "sweet young girl." The film was set mostly on her 18th birthday, IIRC, and she was shown to be quite savvy and mature for someone as sheltered as she'd been.

Mutara Nebula 1967 · February 13 2011, 04:00 PM

Unicron wrote:

I was driving past one of my local theaters one night after work and lol'ed at the sign - they had Tangled and Yogi Bear as two of the selections, but put them both on the same line, in that specific order.

I might give it a shot if I have time.

TANGLED is definately the film that you would want to MAKE the time before. After spending a bit over an hour and a half with Rapunzel it will leave you wanting more!

It's a rare movie where everything came out RIGHT!

Special props to Disney for not going for BIG NAME VOICE talent...stuff like that didn't help coullosal misfires like MEGA MIND and YOGI...instead they gave the voice roles to people who could turn in great performances and you weren't hindered by "knowing" what the voice performer looked like and that allowed the characters to have a life of their own.

Worf2DS9 · February 13 2011, 04:21 PM

I certainly plan to see TANGLED when it comes to DVD, but your enthusiasm has made me wish March-whatever would get here pronto.

MetalPants · February 13 2011, 04:40 PM

Mr. Adventure wrote:

I thought it was a pretty good film, one I actually enjoyed watching with my niece, not just someting you tolerated for the kids.

Exactly the same for me.

Christopher · February 13 2011, 07:04 PM

Mutara Nebula 1967 wrote:

Special props to Disney for not going for BIG NAME VOICE talent...stuff like that didn't help coullosal misfires like MEGA MIND and YOGI...instead they gave the voice roles to people who could turn in great performances and you weren't hindered by "knowing" what the voice performer looked like and that allowed the characters to have a life of their own.

Mandy Moore is a pretty well-known singer-actress. Zachary Levi is the star of a popular NBC show (though I don't care for it), and Donna Murphy is a very big name in musical theater. Plus there were supporting roles played by well-known character actors Ron Perlman, Jeffrey Tambor, M. C. Gainey, and Brad Garrett. These are all well-known or at least familiar people, even if they're not A-list actors.

The original choices for Flynn and Mother Gothel were going to be Dan Fogler and Grey DeLisle. I've never heard of Fogler, and while I'm a big fan of DeLisle's voice work (she was Azula in Avatar: The Last Airbender among many other roles), she's unknown to the general public. So the film ended up with more of a "big-name" cast than it was originally going to have. (Rapunzel was going to be Kristin Chenoweth, who's pretty well-known, though whether she's more famous than Ms. Moore probably depends on what demographic you're polling.)

Lapis Exilis · February 13 2011, 07:22 PM

I heartily agree that Tangled was Disney finding itself again. In the vein of The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, they created a heroine with dimension, a villain both frightening and seductive, revived a classic fairy tale with a very modern sensibility, and had a healthy dose of genuine humor. My nephews, one of whom is deep into the "all things even vaguely feminine suck" phase, loved it as much as I and my mom did. Good to know they've still got it somewhere. It's a truly beautiful movie too - the animation is lush and gorgeous. I'm glad I saw it on the big screen.

melancholymecha · February 13 2011, 11:10 PM

I guess I need to see it again, i was kinda disapointed with it, it just seemed so generic & cookie cutter. I know there's not much love for the 2d animated films Disney made during the 2000's(Atlantis,Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Lilo & Stitch, etc...) but I actually thought those at least tried to do different things & break the norm.

USS Triumphant · February 13 2011, 11:23 PM

Bishop76 wrote:

Am I the only one a little bit creeped out by this thread?

No, but I only find it the tiniest bit creepy. Mandy Moore is an attractive adult, so I'm bearing that in mind.

Mutara Nebula 1967 wrote:

Special props to Disney for not going for BIG NAME VOICE talent...stuff like that didn't help coullosal misfires like MEGA MIND and YOGI...

Megamind was the awesome. You, sir (or madam), are metaphorically ON CRACK.

(Yes, yes, I know - opinions are like anuses, or some such....)

Christopher wrote:

Mandy Moore is a pretty well-known singer-actress.

Moore is excellent, but does anyone else think that she might be an out-and-out clone of Sally Field?

February 12 2011, 04:57 PM	#17
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February 12 2011, 06:36 PM	#23
Christopher Writer	Re: CGI goddess RAPUNZEL from TANGLED appreciation thread. ^Oh, come on. Admiring beauty is not equivalent to lust or sexual possessiveness. Especially when it's the beauty of a cartoon character with no physical existence. Although I don't agree that they portrayed Rapunzel as a "sweet young girl." The film was set mostly on her 18th birthday, IIRC, and she was shown to be quite savvy and mature for someone as sheltered as she'd been. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 13 2011, 04:21 PM	#25
Worf2DS9 Writer Location: Canada, eh	Re: CGI goddess RAPUNZEL from TANGLED appreciation thread. I certainly plan to see TANGLED when it comes to DVD, but your enthusiasm has made me wish March-whatever would get here pronto. __________________ Shorts in: SNW5 \| SNW7 \| SNW9 + Star Trek: Corps of Engineers - "The Light" + Full Throttle Space Tales #3: Space Grunts - "Rush"

February 13 2011, 07:22 PM	#28
Lapis Exilis Rear Admiral Location: Underground	Re: CGI goddess RAPUNZEL from TANGLED appreciation thread. I heartily agree that Tangled was Disney finding itself again. In the vein of The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, they created a heroine with dimension, a villain both frightening and seductive, revived a classic fairy tale with a very modern sensibility, and had a healthy dose of genuine humor. My nephews, one of whom is deep into the "all things even vaguely feminine suck" phase, loved it as much as I and my mom did. Good to know they've still got it somewhere. It's a truly beautiful movie too - the animation is lush and gorgeous. I'm glad I saw it on the big screen. __________________ There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning. - Warren Buffett

February 13 2011, 11:10 PM	#29
melancholymecha Rear Admiral	Re: CGI goddess RAPUNZEL from TANGLED appreciation thread. I guess I need to see it again, i was kinda disapointed with it, it just seemed so generic & cookie cutter. I know there's not much love for the 2d animated films Disney made during the 2000's(Atlantis,Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Lilo & Stitch, etc...) but I actually thought those at least tried to do different things & break the norm.

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