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Old November 18 2010, 05:20 AM   #1
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Old November 18 2010, 06:08 AM   #2
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While I generally liked the first season, it had some ups and downs (the ups being anything related to Chance's backstory and Baptiste, the downs being some very inconsistent quality standalone stories).

This episode was about as decent as a reboot of the show could be. Not great, but it did its job to introduce the new characters and the new status quo. New characters aside, the writers seem to have figuratively turned up the volume on Guerrero which was a plus in my book. And of course, Vancouver got to stand in not only for San Francisco but also Geneva...and fail miserably in doing so, just like in the first season.

Finally, the new theme SUCKED. What happened to Bear McCreary's fantastic theme from the first season? The rest of the show suffered without his music too.

Looking forward to seeing more and keeping my fingers crossed that FOX and the new showrunners don't interfere too much with what makes the show fun.
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Old November 18 2010, 06:34 AM   #3
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While I generally liked the first season, it had some ups and downs (the ups being anything related to Chance's backstory and Baptiste, the downs being some very inconsistent quality standalone stories).

This episode was about as decent as a reboot of the show could be. Not great, but it did its job to introduce the new characters and the new status quo. New characters aside, the writers seem to have figuratively turned up the volume on Guerrero which was a plus in my book. And of course, Vancouver got to stand in not only for San Francisco but also Geneva...and fail miserably in doing so, just like in the first season.
I'v read some months ago, while I watched the first series in a week for the first time, that the new showrunners wanted to make the series more action orientated. Let's see how that goes.

Finally, the new theme SUCKED. What happened to Bear McCreary's fantastic theme from the first season? The rest of the show suffered without his music too.
I agree, it is missed dearly.

I've seen the first episode of the second season of Human Target, and your score is sorely missed. Can you shed some light on your departure from the show?

Honestly, I have no idea. I just know that I wasn't invited back. I could only speculate, but I wouldn't be any more informed than you. The reality is that songs are very expensive, and orchestral score is not. I would be very, very surprised if it was a purely budgetary reason. But I'm very happy with the work that Steinberg and I did over the course of the first season.
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Anyway, it was an okay episode and I am eager to find out, how they get Indira Varma to show up, especially since her character claims to be the "invisible owner".

I guess the "ring switching girl" will be back too, otherwise they wouldn't have spent that much time with here.

Though Simba's character Carmine didn't show up in the newly renovated office. What does that mean?
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Old November 18 2010, 06:37 AM   #4
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They sure wrapped up the cliffhanger really fast, although in the process they seemed to have completely dropped the Joubert (Armand Assante) stuff. I wonder if that means Baptiste is gone too?

The thief character is going to be back in a recurring capacity.
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Old November 18 2010, 05:39 PM   #5
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Wow. That new theme song was absolutely *awful*. The episode was just okay. I hope it's not an indication of what the season's going to be like; if it is, then it's taking a turn to the mediocre.

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Old November 19 2010, 04:43 AM   #6
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I stopped watching after the titles . . . I just couldn't without Bear's music
it's unwatchable without it
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Old November 19 2010, 05:53 AM   #7
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Seems a lot of fans are upset about the removal of McCreary. Really says a lot about him as a composer, doesn't it? Work really stands out in the usually generic world of TV music.
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Old November 19 2010, 05:58 AM   #8
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- Hate the new theme. When I heard they were getting rid of Bear McCreary, I was afraid we'd lose the theme and sure enough we did.

- I agree on the resolution of the cliffhanger. It was wrapped up pretty quickly. Remided me of the second season premiere of Martial Law.

- I knew the scummy lawyer was the bad guy about half a second after I first saw him.

- I like the addition of the billionaire who's bankrolling everything. I wasn't too thrilled with the idea when I heard about her a few months ago, but she seems to be working out well.

- I also like the addition of that thief.
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it's unwatchable without it

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Old November 19 2010, 10:02 AM   #9
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Just watched it. It's like they've focus-grouped the hell out of the show.
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Old November 19 2010, 10:21 AM   #10
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The new showrunner is some guy who used to be on Chuck. So that would explain why the scene of Guerrero driving had such crappy bluescreen.
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Old November 19 2010, 03:03 PM   #11
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Here's the new opening for anyone else who was just looking in to the thread and was curious about the horror of it all.

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Old November 19 2010, 03:16 PM   #12
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I stopped watching after the titles . . . I just couldn't without Bear's music
it's unwatchable without it
Seriously? You do or don't watch a TV show based on a 30 second opening theme?
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Old November 19 2010, 05:01 PM   #13
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Yeah, I really don't care about the theme change. It's the content of the show I enjoy (or not).
So far, no complaints about the changes. We'll see how it goes...
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Old November 19 2010, 06:41 PM   #14
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I stopped watching after the titles . . . I just couldn't without Bear's music
it's unwatchable without it
Seriously? You do or don't watch a TV show based on a 30 second opening theme?
In this case, yes.
Bear's score was what made season 1 such a fresh experience for me. The full orchestra breathed life into the show and solidified the show as a 'weekly action movie' instead of just another good action show.

I was hoping they would at least keep the theme, and do generic score for the rest of the show. I think I'll watch it again all the way through . . . I was a bit put off by the absence of the theme, and the halfassed mishmash of the new one, so I think I'll enjoy it a little better if I watch it with a different mindset.
For me the music was almost one of the main characters. Imagine if they re-cast Craig Robinson as Winston instead of Chi McBride :P
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Theme songs are so 2004 anyway.
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