Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) - Page 98

Broccoli · April 29 2011, 05:09 AM

I don't know...call me crazy, but when I turn on the news, I don't typically expect to learn what fictional characters are doing.

Admiral Buzzkill · April 29 2011, 05:11 AM

Broccoli wrote:

I don't know...call me crazy, but when I turn on the news, I don't typically expect to learn what fictional characters are doing.

Okay - in 2011, you're crazy...or at least not paying attention. You may as well say that when you turn on the news you don't expect to hear what project Lindsay Lohan just got dropped from. Walter Cronkite has been neither a senior editor nor anchor at CBS for some decades now.

DC and Marvel have managed to generate this kind of mainstream media attention more than once in the last few years with stunt plotting - the last time, I believe, was the death of Steve Rogers. One doesn't imagine that this late in the day they're naive to the potential news value of this kind of story event when they cook it up.

Admiral_Young · April 29 2011, 05:12 AM

^ ^Indeed, besides which this has nothing to do with "Man of Steel" and should have been posted in the Action Comics thread (which someone did). Again another reason why I'm so dismissive of this is because this was a back up story. I feel for Cornell a bit who told one of the best Luthor/Superman stories that has been done in a long, long time and it gets ignored because of this.

Broccoli · April 29 2011, 05:14 AM

Dennis wrote:

Broccoli wrote:

I don't know...call me crazy, but when I turn on the news, I don't typically expect to learn what fictional characters are doing.

Okay - in 2011, you're crazy.

DC and Marvel have managed to generate this kind of mainstream media attention more than once in the last few years with stunt plotting - the last time, I believe, was the death of Steve Rogers. One doesn't imagine that this late in the day they're naive to the potential news value of this kind of story event when they cook it up.

I know it happens, but I still think it is kinda silly. I mean, really, nothing else happened in the world that major news outlets need to talk about what fictional things are happening to fictional characters?

Then again, if it's Fox News...

Admiral_Young · April 29 2011, 05:16 AM

Rao...

Admiral Buzzkill · April 29 2011, 05:17 AM

If we could only wish away everything in the media that's "kinda silly" we'd live simpler lives, I suppose.

The reason I brought this up here was stated in my original post - taking a look at our friend "The First Avenger" (known to us Yanks as Captain America) it seems entirely possible that the timing of Clark's becoming a Kryptonian without a country may not be happenstance.

Cornell's story was going to be ignored by the larger media regardless of whether this story was published or not - there's nothing unusual enough about what he's doing to be "newsworthy." Perhaps a result of the mini-controversy may be that a few more people will buy the comic and read Cornell's work, and I'm sure he'll feel good about that.

Broccoli · April 29 2011, 05:20 AM

Admiral_Young wrote:

Rao...

Oh, it was just a little jab at the expense of Fox's reputation. I'm really not that political.

Admiral_Young · April 29 2011, 05:21 AM

It's not Clark that is revoking his citizenship though...it's Superman, two totally different things.

@Broc my Rao comment wasn't directed at the Fox comment just at the whole story lol.

Admiral Buzzkill · April 29 2011, 05:23 AM

So, I tend to call the character Clark and Superman interchangably - I like "Clark," and have ever since John Byrne invented him.

Sue me.

Broccoli · April 29 2011, 05:26 AM

Dennis wrote:

So, I tend to call the character Clark and Superman interchangably - I like "Clark," and have ever since John Byrne invented him.

Sue me.

Yeah...I don't really read many Superman comics these days, but I'm saddened hear that they've done away with that Clark.

Admiral_Young · April 29 2011, 05:27 AM

I was just trying to differentiate who is doing the revoking. This would be something entirely different if Clark went to Lois and said "Honey, I'm revoking my American citizenship so I can function better as Superman and doing so am going to expose my identity to the world." No this was Clark making a Superman decision

Admiral Buzzkill · April 29 2011, 05:28 AM

Broccoli wrote:

Dennis wrote:

So, I tend to call the character Clark and Superman interchangably - I like "Clark," and have ever since John Byrne invented him.

Sue me.

Yeah...I don't really read many Superman comics these days, but I'm saddened hear that they've done away with that Clark.

Have they? I know that All Star Superman went with the bumbling ol' ReeveClark, but I didn't know that he was generally being written as a dorky disguise these days.

Admiral_Young · April 29 2011, 05:33 AM

^ Johns basically retconned Clark into being Donner Clark.

Admiral Buzzkill · April 29 2011, 05:35 AM

Eh, I guess eventually even Johns had to do something I'd dislike.

Nerys Myk · April 29 2011, 05:35 AM

Geoff Johns and Gary Frank brought back the bumbling ol' ReeveClark. (In Frank's case its close to literal)

April 29 2011, 05:09 AM	#1456
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) I don't know...call me crazy, but when I turn on the news, I don't typically expect to learn what fictional characters are doing. __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

April 29 2011, 05:12 AM	#1458
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) ^ ^Indeed, besides which this has nothing to do with "Man of Steel" and should have been posted in the Action Comics thread (which someone did). Again another reason why I'm so dismissive of this is because this was a back up story. I feel for Cornell a bit who told one of the best Luthor/Superman stories that has been done in a long, long time and it gets ignored because of this. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

April 29 2011, 05:16 AM	#1460
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) Rao... __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

April 29 2011, 05:17 AM	#1461
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) If we could only wish away everything in the media that's "kinda silly" we'd live simpler lives, I suppose. The reason I brought this up here was stated in my original post - taking a look at our friend "The First Avenger" (known to us Yanks as Captain America) it seems entirely possible that the timing of Clark's becoming a Kryptonian without a country may not be happenstance. Cornell's story was going to be ignored by the larger media regardless of whether this story was published or not - there's nothing unusual enough about what he's doing to be "newsworthy." Perhaps a result of the mini-controversy may be that a few more people will buy the comic and read Cornell's work, and I'm sure he'll feel good about that. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

April 29 2011, 05:21 AM	#1463
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) It's not Clark that is revoking his citizenship though...it's Superman, two totally different things. @Broc my Rao comment wasn't directed at the Fox comment just at the whole story lol. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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April 29 2011, 05:23 AM	#1464
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) So, I tend to call the character Clark and Superman interchangably - I like "Clark," and have ever since John Byrne invented him. Sue me. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

April 29 2011, 05:27 AM	#1466
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) I was just trying to differentiate who is doing the revoking. This would be something entirely different if Clark went to Lois and said "Honey, I'm revoking my American citizenship so I can function better as Superman and doing so am going to expose my identity to the world." No this was Clark making a Superman decision __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

April 29 2011, 05:33 AM	#1468
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) ^ Johns basically retconned Clark into being Donner Clark. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

April 29 2011, 05:35 AM	#1469
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) Eh, I guess eventually even Johns had to do something I'd dislike. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

April 29 2011, 05:35 AM	#1470
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release) Geoff Johns and Gary Frank brought back the bumbling ol' ReeveClark. (In Frank's case its close to literal) __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com