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Old March 24 2011, 05:56 AM   #781
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Re: Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

In the first movie I want Luthor to be pulling the strings for the big bad of the movie

Superman- Who could have been supplying these weapons to ______?


Cut to giant skyscraper at night

Assistant- Chances are the weapons won't be traced back to you sir.

Lex-Good.
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Old March 24 2011, 06:04 AM   #782
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If it were up to me I wouldn't even show Lex at all, just hint as his presence. Show the LexCorp tower building. Have Daily Planet headlines of Luthor activity. Billboard. I would have a scene at the start of the movie of young Clark and Lex and that's it.
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Old March 24 2011, 06:19 AM   #783
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=75442

Cool interview with Zack Snyder...some Superman stuff.
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Old March 24 2011, 07:05 AM   #784
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I'd still like to see Tina Fey as Lois.
She'd be a great Lois and she has the right age, I always preferred Lois to be older than Clark, she's supposed to be an experienced reporter with lots of connections, the last thing I want is a chick who looks like she's straight out of college.
Yeah, but take Tina Fey as Lois and see the sales of tickets plummet. Just because some nerds (not you) thinks that some mid-profile funny lady is hot doesn't mean the world thinks so too. Lois, by all accounts, should be as smart as she is glamorous. Something Teri Hatcher and her on-screen daughter Erica Durance has been able to portray.
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Old March 24 2011, 07:20 AM   #785
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If it were up to me I wouldn't even show Lex at all, just hint as his presence. Show the LexCorp tower building. Have Daily Planet headlines of Luthor activity. Billboard. I would have a scene at the start of the movie of young Clark and Lex and that's it.
I agree with the first half of that statement. As a reboot, they should go the Begins route and, at the very end, set up the next film as featuring Lex. But I'd prefer if they had never met prior to Superman's debut. Too many shades of Superboy/Smallville.
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Old March 24 2011, 07:23 AM   #786
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^ Yet their friendship was something that was based in the Silver Age and has been brought back into current continuity thanks first to "Smallville" then Mark Waid and Geoff Johns. That's the only reason I mentioned it.

Tiny Fey is mid-profile? Since when? She's A-List baby!
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Old March 24 2011, 02:12 PM   #787
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You need Lex as much as you need Lois in a Superman movie.
Do you? Not every Batman movie features the Joker. We've had two successful Iron Man movies without the Mandarin. Lex Luthor is not Superman's only foe. It's just that the live-action Superman movies to date haven't been very flexible in their choice of villains. Just because something has been done repetitively in the past, that doesn't mean it needs to be done.
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Old March 24 2011, 02:18 PM   #788
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^Agreed.
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Old March 24 2011, 02:18 PM   #789
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You need Lex as much as you need Lois in a Superman movie.
Do you? Not every Batman movie features the Joker. We've had two successful Iron Man movies without the Mandarin. Lex Luthor is not Superman's only foe. It's just that the live-action Superman movies to date haven't been very flexible in their choice of villains. Just because something has been done repetitively in the past, that doesn't mean it needs to be done.
Lex is more than Superman's enemy. He is supporting character in Superman's cast, just like Jimmy Olsen and Perry White. Would you make a Batman movie without Alfred or Commissioner Gordon?
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Old March 24 2011, 02:19 PM   #790
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^ Yet their friendship was something that was based in the Silver Age and has been brought back into current continuity thanks first to "Smallville" then Mark Waid and Geoff Johns.
Which sucks. Byrne's take on Luthor was the best by far.

Tiny Fey is mid-profile? Since when? She's A-List baby!
Not really. She's a popular TV star who's done a couple of movies - some successful, some not, nothing that would break her out on the big screen. The foundation of her career remains her ability as a writer.
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Old March 24 2011, 02:24 PM   #791
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Since Snyder has said they're making a clean break from past Superman films, it's possible we won't see Luthor. I chuckle at fans when they keep saying they're sick and tired of seeing Lex Luthor in a Superman film. Yes, Clark has a few other villains, but the plain and simple fact is that a general audience is gonna know who Lex Luthor is. No one but comic book fans know who Zod, Brainiac, Metallo, are. You've got to build up to these other villains. We'll see what happens when the rest of casting is announced.
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Old March 24 2011, 02:57 PM   #792
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On the subject of Luthor, Brainiac et al here's a piece on the current status of the Siegel heirs legal fight with Warners:

Superman Legal Fight Heats Up As New Appeal Sought

I'm 100% with the Siegels on this whole fight. Screw Warners; the big studios haven't earned any loyalty or the benefit of much doubt on either artistic or commercial grounds.

Frankly the idea of some creative folks having to craft a Superman moive from the "core characteristics" of the original conception has quite a bit of (pardon the pun) appeal. Dump Kryptonite and Luthor and you create new storytelling challenges - can't fall back on what's familiar to create peril. Without Lois Lane and Perry White the question of what kind of life this guy can live and what his relationships with normal people would be like opens up.

All idle speculation, though - in reality, of course, if the Siegels win this they'll simply accept a huge amount of money from Warner Bros in exchange for licensing Supes.
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Old March 24 2011, 03:20 PM   #793
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Would you make a Batman movie without Alfred or Commissioner Gordon?
Don't be silly! That would be like making a Batman movie without Robin!

Wait...
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Old March 24 2011, 03:34 PM   #794
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Not sure if that's a good example or not.
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Old March 24 2011, 03:38 PM   #795
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Well...Robin didn't come around until much later than those two, so that's a bad example.
Not at all. Not one in one hundred thousand people who recognize Batman or Superman knows anything about the early history of the comics, so the importance (or lack of same) of featuring particular long-standing characters has nothing to do with when they were introduced.

Peter Parker being in love from early adolescence on with his next-door neighbor Mary Jane Watson in the Spider-Man movies didn't appear to have cost the studio a single ticket sale...
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