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Old May 6 2013, 08:59 PM   #5851
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Outstanding.
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Old May 6 2013, 09:09 PM   #5852
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Awesome. And looks like Cavill's been practicing Reeve's primal roar from the first movie.
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Old May 6 2013, 09:23 PM   #5853
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especially another Nolan superhero movie.
What makes you think he would treat Batman and Superman the same? Your entire premise is you don't think Superman should be treated like Batman, but your basis is essentially how he treats Batman. You say "Nolan Superhero Movie" like he's done more than one superhero so far.

If you at least had seen Memento or Inception, I would think it's possible to extrapolate, but it's not really possible based on one franchise and one other movie which is not generally seen as his best.
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Old May 6 2013, 11:05 PM   #5854
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I just don't think someone who made such horrible Batman movies can ever do anything good. He failed at making Batman, completely. He not only got it wrong, he made Batman unrecongniseable. All of the trailers and tV spots for MoS look horrible and, to me, reinforce by thoughts on the movie. I mean, come on, it has hobo Superman. Superman doesn't give up, he doesn't wonder the road with a beard (I'm assuming he's doing this just until he can find a cure for his gamma radiation poisoning ). Can't we just have superman have a good childhood (after arriving on earth obviously) with no parents telling him to let people drown, then have him move to Metropolis, become a hero, and fight a villain (perferably with only 5 or so minutes spent on Krypton and earth childhood combined, its a movie about the man of steel, not the planet that blew up or Clark trying to hide his powers as a kid)? It doesn't have to be all that similar to the Christopher Reeve superman, but it should have a less dark tone than a freaking Batman movie, especially Nolan's garbage.
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Old May 6 2013, 11:27 PM   #5855
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I just don't think someone who made such horrible Batman movies can ever do anything good. He failed at making Batman, completely. He not only got it wrong, he made Batman unrecongniseable. All of the trailers and tV spots for MoS look horrible and, to me, reinforce by thoughts on the movie. I mean, come on, it has hobo Superman. Superman doesn't give up, he doesn't wonder the road with a beard (I'm assuming he's doing this just until he can find a cure for his gamma radiation poisoning ). Can't we just have superman have a good childhood (after arriving on earth obviously) with no parents telling him to let people drown, then have him move to Metropolis, become a hero, and fight a villain (perferably with only 5 or so minutes spent on Krypton and earth childhood combined, its a movie about the man of steel, not the planet that blew up or Clark trying to hide his powers as a kid)? It doesn't have to be all that similar to the Christopher Reeve superman, but it should have a less dark tone than a freaking Batman movie, especially Nolan's garbage.
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I assume this is a joke , right
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Old May 6 2013, 11:30 PM   #5856
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^It is but not intentionally.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:14 AM   #5857
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I just don't think someone who made such horrible Batman movies can ever do anything good. He failed at making Batman, completely. He not only got it wrong, he made Batman unrecongniseable. All of the trailers and tV spots for MoS look horrible and, to me, reinforce by thoughts on the movie. I mean, come on, it has hobo Superman. Superman doesn't give up, he doesn't wonder the road with a beard (I'm assuming he's doing this just until he can find a cure for his gamma radiation poisoning ). Can't we just have superman have a good childhood (after arriving on earth obviously) with no parents telling him to let people drown, then have him move to Metropolis, become a hero, and fight a villain (perferably with only 5 or so minutes spent on Krypton and earth childhood combined, its a movie about the man of steel, not the planet that blew up or Clark trying to hide his powers as a kid)? It doesn't have to be all that similar to the Christopher Reeve superman, but it should have a less dark tone than a freaking Batman movie, especially Nolan's garbage.
Sounds like you basically just want a live-action version of the STAS cartoon, where Superman was just a boring do-gooder with no personality who did nothing but fight aliens and giant robots all day.

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing a slightly more complex and believable Superman in this movie.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:17 AM   #5858
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It also sounds like he has misinterpreted Jonathan's line from the trailer, which was taken from "Superman: Secret Origin". He wasn't saying that Clark should have let them drown...he was basically acting like a father who was afraid of losing his son through exposure of his powers. This is later touched upon by Clark himself with his quote ("My father believed that if the world found out who I really was, they'd reject me... out of fear. He was convinced that the world wasn't ready. What do you think?")

It sounds harsh because it's probably out of context to the entire scene and most likely not as "dark" as the poster is attempting to make it out to be.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:19 AM   #5859
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Yeah, I have no doubt that that line is out of context in the trailer specifically for shock value. I'm sure the scene in the actual movie will have a totally different feel.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:32 AM   #5860
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3 minutes of the score, revealed through a QR code on the new official poster. It's what we heard on the last trailer.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/ite...%20preview.mp3
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Old May 7 2013, 12:34 AM   #5861
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Yep it's also the third trailer music. It sounds beautiful. I have a feeling Hans has topped himself again!
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Old May 7 2013, 12:42 AM   #5862
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Russell Crowe put out this tweet today according to Blastr:
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ahem...as I was saying...my name is Jor El, of Krypton, as my planet dies I send 2 you my son, Kal. So he may live. He will arrive June 14
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Old May 7 2013, 01:17 AM   #5863
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I just don't think someone who made such horrible Batman movies can ever do anything good.
But they were excellent Batman movies.

He failed at making Batman, completely. He not only got it wrong, he made Batman unrecongniseable.
Unrecognizable? Hardly. I've been reading Batman comics since the early 70s (and I've read numerous stories going back to the first appearance of Batman). In fact, I suspect I've read more Batman than you've had hot meals. And I had no trouble at all recognizing the character in Nolan's films.

All of the trailers and tV spots for MoS look horrible and, to me, reinforce by thoughts on the movie. I mean, come on, it has hobo Superman. Superman doesn't give up, he doesn't wonder the road with a beard (I'm assuming he's doing this just until he can find a cure for his gamma radiation poisoning ). Can't we just have superman have a good childhood (after arriving on earth obviously) with no parents telling him to let people drown, then have him move to Metropolis, become a hero, and fight a villain (perferably with only 5 or so minutes spent on Krypton and earth childhood combined, its a movie about the man of steel, not the planet that blew up or Clark trying to hide his powers as a kid)? It doesn't have to be all that similar to the Christopher Reeve superman, but it should have a less dark tone than a freaking Batman movie, especially Nolan's garbage.
If it only approximates the least of Nolan's moments in the Batman trilogy, it will be a great film. But that's only if the actual director is up to that task (since Nolan himself is not helming the picture). When I first learned that Zack Snyder was directing, I was unsure about the odds of my liking the film (I thought he did a good job with The Watchmen--among the best comic stories out there--but I wasn't enthused by 300). Learning of Nolan's involvement, though, made me far more confident that I would like Man of Steel. I am looking forward to this more than any other film this summer, save Star Trek into Darkness.

Of course, the above is only my opinion. You need not share it in any way (and clearly you wouldn't). I am not trying to persuade you to change your mind in any way. But I would advise, for your blood pressure, ignoring the upcoming Superman movie. If I had such a visceral disdain for the work of a particular filmmaker (either as a director or a producer), I would simply avoid it altogether (much as I avoid anything by Celine Dion, lest my blood pressure go up too much). What I wouldn't do, again for my own benefit, is constantly dwell on something I dislike and remark about it in places where I'm unlikely to garner any sympathy. That would just feed my frustration even more. Instead, I'd watch something I do like and mellow out.

Just sayin'.
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Old May 7 2013, 01:48 AM   #5864
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^ I just do not understand how people give time and attention to things they do not like. There are movies/shows and series I do not like so I do not comment on them.

This movie really looks like a fresh step for Superman. I liked Superman Returns but all I have seen thus far makes me happy that have rebooted the series and given it a new start.
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Old May 7 2013, 02:29 AM   #5865
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As long as Superman doesn't have a comically-growly voice that makes it impossible to understand what he's saying, I'm good....
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