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Old April 21 2013, 05:53 PM   #5731
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If they are doing some new things with his birth I am alright with that. We got to change up the familiar story a little bit.
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Old April 21 2013, 06:09 PM   #5732
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Yeah, the Christ allegory is kind of unavoidable with this character, considering what his origin story is.

Although I get the sense from the trailers that they're downplaying that a bit from the Donner movies, and making him more of just a regular, down to earth guy who only reluctantly become a hero. Unlike Reeve's Superman who seemed to be headed in that direction from the very start.
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Old April 21 2013, 09:58 PM   #5733
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I believe not.
Superman's suit in MoS is supposed to be what a Kryptonian would wear under the armor, like the armor we see Zod wear.
To quote from the recent EW magazine:
If you watch the clip in the trailer where Zod and his followers have been caught, they appear to be wearing the suit with no armor.


Well, nothing's more humiliating than being stripped down to your underwear in front of the victors.

Do the other Kryptonians in this versions have superpowers under a yellow sun as well, or only Kal-El because he's a naturally born Kryptonian?
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Do the other Kryptonians in this versions have superpowers under a yellow sun as well, or only Kal-El because he's a naturally born Kryptonian?
Of course other Kryptonians will have superpowers, otherwise it would be a pretty short confrontation with the villains.

I'm not even sure I get why you have to ask. Has there ever been a story where having powers under a yellow sun was Clark specific and not a general kryptonian trait?
We even see a quick shot of Zod and Superman flying into each other in the trailer. So that right there would prove pretty clearly that at least Zod has powers. And I don't see why his followers wouldn't if he did.
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Old April 21 2013, 11:29 PM   #5734
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The messianic aspect of Superman has always been part of the Superman mythos.
Not really, that element only really sprang up after the Donner flicks. Prior, he was the thirties aggressive champion of the poor who fought wife beaters, child abusers and so on. Then the forties and fifties he was the smiling patriot( that's when the famous slogan "Truth, justice and the American way!" popped up) that wasn't afraid to choke fuhrer Hitler to the silver age's overpowered asshole who wasn't afraid to give Lois a spankin.' and could hold multiple planets. He's been through a long metamorphism, and the "extraterrestrial Christ" figure was an interpretation that was seeded and grew from the influence of the Donner movies. The hope and inspiration aspect of Superman has always been a cornerstone of the Superman mythos.
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Old April 22 2013, 02:19 AM   #5735
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Does anyone else find it strange we have never seen any footage, leaked or otherwise, of Clark wearing glasses. Are they maybe doing away with the disguise? Or are they maybe going with the reverse of what Smallville did, and Daily Planet Clark isn't formed until the very end of the film?
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Old April 22 2013, 02:55 AM   #5736
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That would be similar to John Byrne did in the miniseries of the same name. He first used his powers publicly in street clothes without glasses. Lois named him Superman in the Daily Planet. Clark and his parents create the costume and glasses disguise. He appeared in a costume a number of times. Than finally Clark Kent in glasses shows up at the Daily Planet with an interview with Superman. Thats how he was hired.

The movie seems to be using a lot of that as inspiration. Main difference is the suit being Kryptonian. In this films had been following reports of a mysterious "Guardian Angel" for years. That Clark was traveling the world and secretly helping people, before in costume, is right from John Byrne. There was references to this in the L&C Pilot too.
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Old April 22 2013, 03:03 AM   #5737
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Does anyone else find it strange we have never seen any footage, leaked or otherwise, of Clark wearing glasses. Are they maybe doing away with the disguise? Or are they maybe going with the reverse of what Smallville did, and Daily Planet Clark isn't formed until the very end of the film?
That's what I'm thinking.

I have no idea how they would work it in, but I'd think that by the end of the movie Clark wants to stay close to Lois. Taking on a "disguise" and working at the Planet would accomplish that.
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Old April 22 2013, 04:12 AM   #5738
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That is the essence of character. He wants to have a normal life too.
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Old April 22 2013, 05:32 AM   #5739
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I'm actually kind of hoping they turn the Clark & Lois relationship on its head and have Lois be the one to tell him that he needs a disguise to help live a normal life rather than Supermanning 24/7. I would much prefer them starting out with her knowing his whole story, I'm totally over the "hiding his secret from her" routine.
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Old April 22 2013, 05:35 AM   #5740
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Thats not new, it would be ripping off Smallville. Which is the last place I hope it looked for ideas.
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Old April 22 2013, 06:04 AM   #5741
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Oh, bugger. I didn't know they did that...I gave up on Smallville long before the end (Except for the disappointing finale.) Sorry.
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Old April 22 2013, 06:19 AM   #5742
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Even though Smallvile did it first I like the ideas of Lois knowing that Clark Kent is Superman. It is difficult to suspend disbelief with his secret identity anyway so the less they focus on it the better.
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Old April 22 2013, 08:32 AM   #5743
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The secret identity has worked in various mediums for ummm 75 YEARS!!!!

I somewhat get the "glasses as disguise does not make sense" but we are talking about an alien who looks exactly like a human being who has the powers of a god. Yet doing away with the secret identity will make it more believable???

Superman is a fairy tale, a fantasy. Only with the superficial trapping of science fiction. The best way to explain the secret identity is that is a metaphor. On how we often judge people based on what they look like. Whether race, age, clothing, social status. That also we do not notice or really know people we see everyday at work.
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Old April 22 2013, 10:48 AM   #5744
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Does anyone else find it strange we have never seen any footage, leaked or otherwise, of Clark wearing glasses. Are they maybe doing away with the disguise? Or are they maybe going with the reverse of what Smallville did, and Daily Planet Clark isn't formed until the very end of the film?
The Comic-Con trailer from last year showed Clark in the process of putting on glasses.
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Old April 22 2013, 03:03 PM   #5745
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