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Old February 17 2011, 08:15 PM   #511
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I don't get fashion either. Although I will say that fashion is a societal thing...generated by popularity and all that good stuff. I guess it's the same for comic book fashion and Rao knows if there's one thing that fans absolutely can't agree on it's the look of a costume!! LOL.
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Old February 17 2011, 08:33 PM   #512
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I think the Reeves costume still looks great, but it fits within a certain tone and a certain type of cinematography. To update it to suit what Snyder is likely to deliver it's not so much changing the basic design that's needed, but just some tweaking of the colors and experimenting with different fabrics to see what looks best.
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Old February 17 2011, 08:37 PM   #513
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If no one understands the meaning of the article than that's pretty funny in it's self.
Yeah, it is pretty hilarious that you don't understand it.

How someone can read "wearing a replica of Christopher Reeve’s once impressive now dated costume" as anything other than a comment on how dated the costume looks relative to more modern costume design is actually amazing.
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Old February 17 2011, 08:51 PM   #514
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That said, I decided to compare photos of Reeve's costume and Dean Cain's costume from Lois & Clark. I don't see any material differences in design aside from the shape of the belt buckle and the shape of the boots.
The material of both Cain's suit and the cape looks a lot thicker to me. It may not be the best choice of material, but it still feels a bit more sophisticated to me than the what Reeve's got on (which basically looks like the same super thin, cheap-looking material Adam West wore in the Batman series).

The processes used to transfer film onto video in the '70s and '80s tended to wash out the colors, so that audiences have grown up thinking those films had blander colors than they actually did.
Yeah no question about that. I've seen Reeve's costume in the Smithsonian, and the colors are MUCH richer than how they appeared in the movies.

As for the chest shield, its small size evokes the Superman comics and cartoons of the early '40s, and its faceted look suggests Art Deco more than modernity.
Actually, being a big fan of retro scifi, the muted colors and 40s, art deco design is what I really LIKED about the SR suit. I'm not saying it's the most ideal update of the costume ever (I wasn't crazy about the tight neck or weird boots myself), but overall I thought it fit within the somber, poetic style of Singer's movie just about perfectly.
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Old February 17 2011, 08:55 PM   #515
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Henry worried unnecessarily - if you look at about 2:28 in this video, Reeve didn't exactly "fill out the suit" when he auditioned:

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Old February 17 2011, 09:01 PM   #516
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^ Not to mention that he had to dye his blond hair black with shoe polish!
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Old February 17 2011, 09:30 PM   #517
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I think the Reeves costume still looks great, but it fits within a certain tone and a certain type of cinematography. To update it to suit what Snyder is likely to deliver it's not so much changing the basic design that's needed, but just some tweaking of the colors and experimenting with different fabrics to see what looks best.
Okay, that makes sense to me. The Superman costume is iconic, and has not undergone a major, permanent design change in the comics (beyond a little tweaking of detals) for over 60 years. Adjusting the interpretation of that design is perfectly understandable. I think what bothers me most about the Routh costume is that it's too great a departure from the standard design.


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As for the chest shield, its small size evokes the Superman comics and cartoons of the early '40s, and its faceted look suggests Art Deco more than modernity.
Actually, being a big fan of retro scifi, the muted colors and 40s, art deco design is what I really LIKED about the SR suit. I'm not saying it's the most ideal update of the costume ever (I wasn't crazy about the tight neck or weird boots myself), but overall I thought it fit within the somber, poetic style of Singer's movie just about perfectly.
Don't get me wrong, I love Art Deco. I just don't think this particular design works for me as a Superman costume.
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Old February 17 2011, 09:31 PM   #518
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As long as they avoid that silly blue & white costume from the mid-1990s...
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Old February 17 2011, 10:42 PM   #519
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^ Are you referring to "Electric" Superman? LOL. I think it's a safe bet we won't be seeing that suit.
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Old February 17 2011, 10:53 PM   #520
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Oh yeah, I posted a pic of that somewhere earlier in the thread. Seeing Snyder's superhero suits in Watchmen, it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe Supes suit will be made of similar material to Night Owl or Spectre II but a little more subdued and understated.

This is a little unrelated (more to do with Watchmen) but I wonder if this video with Watchmen's costume designer will somewhat give a little insight. Not saying Snyder will use the same costume designer though.

http://vimeo.com/3260774
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Old February 17 2011, 11:24 PM   #521
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I love the quotes from Cavill and Snyder. I just can't help but feel a little sorry for Routh.
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Old February 17 2011, 11:34 PM   #522
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I kind of feel like he got screwed over...oh well.
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Old February 17 2011, 11:41 PM   #523
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Wait what quotes?
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Wait what quotes?
From the article?
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I think JA is talking about what they said in the article.

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