Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Captaindemotion wrote:

---

^ But could Sucker Punch be the nail in his coffin? Just wondering ...

Sucker Punch is a risky film, and one would think Warners would have gone into it with eyes wide open, so even if it also underperforms I don't think it'll derail Synder's work on Superman.

[Admiral_Young]

People forget too that "Sucker Punch" is his first original film. So not only is it risky and ambitious in scope but he personally is risking his reputation. If "Sucker Punch" flops at the box office Superman fans are gonna be ballistic, I think the majority are already on hesitant regarding his directorship of the film.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Captaindemotion wrote:

---

^ But could Sucker Punch be the nail in his coffin? Just wondering ...

Nail in what coffin? That expression is inappropriate, considering that Snyder's career seems to be quite healthy (I understand that he's directing some big superhero movie for WB, in fact...)

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

The fact that Sucker Punch still got a green light despite Watchmen doing disappointing business shows his relationship with Warners is quite resilient. Fans are generally quicker to write directors off than studios are. New Line (now run from within WB) and Legendary being eager to keep Bryan Singer's services on Jack the Giant Killer, whereas a lot of online fandom has turned against him, is another example of this.

[Admiral_Young]

^ I agree. I've been a staunch supporter of the film since the first trailer blew me away and am excited to see what he can do with Superman.

[Captaindemotion]

Dennis wrote:

---

Nail in what coffin? That expression is inappropriate, considering that Snyder's career seems to be quite healthy (I understand that he's directing some big superhero movie for WB, in fact...)

And perhaps if you'd read the last few posts, you'd see that he's been replaced on the 300 prequel. You'd also see that his last two movies have underperformed at the box office. And if you'd read the link I posted, you'd see that there seem to be concerns about the strength of the Superman script - not his fault, as director, but not helping that whole 'healthy career' thing.

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Whether he's being replaced as director of Xerxes against his will is speculation, though. It's quite possible he's fine with letting Xerxes go in favor of helming what could be, box office willing, a number of Superman films. Also, wrestling a script into shape with shooting still a few months off is hardly unusual.

[Admiral_Young]

Zach is fine. They wouldn't have named him director in the first place if Warner Bros and DC Ent were concerned about the things you stated in your post captaindemotion. For some reason you're already writing him off just because he is being replaced on another project. This kind of stuff happens all the time. I don't see how this has any bearing whatsoever on having a healthy career. It's probably a simple matter not wanting to juggle two different projects at the same time. It's a difficult thing to do.

[Captaindemotion]

^ I'm not 'writing him off.' Does no-one understand the significance of the word 'could' in my post? Last time I checked, this thread was called 'Superman (casting, rumours, pix.' I'm throwing this link in because it's a Superman related rumour and I want to hear people's thoughts about it.

Didn't realise we were only supposed to mention solid facts all of a sudden ...

[Christopher]

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

---

Fans are generally quicker to write directors off than studios are.

Which could explain why M. Night Shyamalan is still working...

[Admiral_Young]

I gave my opinion on the article. So have others who would seem to disagree with any possibility that Snyder is somehow on "shaky" ground or however you want to put it and I'm gonna be an ass and be technical, that post doesn't have anything to do with "Superman" really. That's technically a different Snyder project

[Captaindemotion]

^ You don't think that an article commenting on Snyder's relationship with the studio that is entrusting him to revive a potentially massive tentpole movie has anything to do with that movie? You think the whole Superman project is happening in a vacuum and won't be influenced by other factors, like Snyder's relationship with the studio or the income of his other movies for them?

[Admiral_Young]

Again...if there was any concern on the studios part about Zach Snyder being able to deliver on "Superman" Nolan and company would not have selected him to direct the project. It is obvious that he decided that he couldn't work on both films and give each the attention they deserve so he dropped "Xerxes" (a project he was pretty passionate about making btw) and decided to focus on "Superman" which is only a good thing.

[Captaindemotion]

^ That's fair enough. There's no need for the 'sigh.' Again, I make it clear, I merely put the link in to see what people thought of the rumour. I'm neither endorsing it nor rubbishing it. But I thought it might at least be worth talking about.

I stand by the William Goldman maxim that 'In Hollywood nobody knows anything', but I like to add the words 'especially me.'

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Captaindemotion wrote:

---

Again, I make it clear, I merely put the link in to see what people thought of the rumour. I'm neither endorsing it nor rubbishing it. But I thought it might at least be worth talking about.

Lest there be any doubt, I have no beef with you over that. I just don't buy Vulture's speculation for the reasons I've already stated.