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Old October 8 2011, 08:39 PM   #3451
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Just because the actress was Hispanic didn't mean Sue was. Thats like saying Reed was Welsh because Ioan Gruffudd is.
Except Gruffudd wasn't obviously Welsh. He did a reasonable American accent. This actress was obviously Hispanic. I didn't even know who she was before seeing the movie, and my first reaction to her upon seeing the film is "why is Sue Hispanic... and her brother not?"
Other reactions included "why is Sue a sexpot?" and "Wow, she's a bad actress," which I suppose answers the sexpot question.
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Old October 8 2011, 08:46 PM   #3452
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I must have seen a different movie.
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Old October 8 2011, 08:48 PM   #3453
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Just because the actress was Hispanic didn't mean Sue was. Thats like saying Reed was Welsh because Ioan Gruffudd is.
Except Gruffudd wasn't obviously Welsh. He did a reasonable American accent. This actress was obviously Hispanic. I didn't even know who she was before seeing the movie, and my first reaction to her upon seeing the film is "why is Sue Hispanic... and her brother not?"
Other reactions included "why is Sue a sexpot?" and "Wow, she's a bad actress," which I suppose answers the sexpot question.
Since she doesn't speak with an Spanish accent how can she be "obviously Hispanic"? Alba is no more or less Hispanic than Cameron Diaz. Both have fathers who are Hispanic and mothers who are not. If Diaz had been cast would you make the same claim? Or does Diaz not fit your idea of Hispanic because she's a blonde? What if they cast Phoebe Cates or Catherine Zeta -Jones? Both are dark haired and dark eyed, but non-hispanic. Hispanic is not about hair or skin pigmentation.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:05 AM   #3454
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Most female heroes aren't designed to look cool in action scenes. They're designed to look cool when striking sexy poses.
Indeed. Problemo Numero Uno. Look everybody, I'm Hispanic!

I would think any heroes in a mask is asking for trouble in a fight, but Batman's has some nice hand holds on it. Holy vision obscured Batman!!!!!!

From what I understand capes are bad ideas for fliers. They tend to wrap rather than billow.
I think it's just a bad idea to get next to jet turbines regardless of what you're wearing.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:36 AM   #3455
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Just because the actress was Hispanic didn't mean Sue was. Thats like saying Reed was Welsh because Ioan Gruffudd is.
Except Gruffudd wasn't obviously Welsh. He did a reasonable American accent. This actress was obviously Hispanic. I didn't even know who she was before seeing the movie, and my first reaction to her upon seeing the film is "why is Sue Hispanic... and her brother not?"
Other reactions included "why is Sue a sexpot?" and "Wow, she's a bad actress," which I suppose answers the sexpot question.
Since she doesn't speak with an Spanish accent how can she be "obviously Hispanic"? Alba is no more or less Hispanic than Cameron Diaz. Both have fathers who are Hispanic and mothers who are not. If Diaz had been cast would you make the same claim? Or does Diaz not fit your idea of Hispanic because she's a blonde? What if they cast Phoebe Cates or Catherine Zeta -Jones? Both are dark haired and dark eyed, but non-hispanic. Hispanic is not about hair or skin pigmentation.
oh give me a break with the knee-jerk political correctness. Sue Storm is a wasp. This actress was very obviously Hispanic. You don't have to grow up in a Spanish neighborhood (as I did) to be distrscted it. Of course, by your theory, it was just a lucky guess on my part, since you argue that no one "looks" hispanic.
Sorry, that's bull. Some people look Mexican. Some people look like Carribean Hispanics. Some people look like South American Hispanics. Lots of Hispanics look totally Anglo. Lots look totally Negro. But to say that no one looks "Hispanic" is simply disingenuous.

I have no idea what these other people you mention look like. If they have dark hair, there's a good chance they wouldn't have looked natural as a blonde either. Sue Storm is a relatively shy blonde WASP. That's the physical and emotional description of the character. She's not a bottle-blonde who points her tits at anything that moves.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:41 AM   #3456
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Sue Storm? Shy? Not for a while.
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Old October 9 2011, 12:46 AM   #3457
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I didn't know Jessica Alba is partly of recent Mexican ancestry. I was too busy being pleased with her casting to notice or even care. I love FF, especially Kirby-drawn FF. Kirby Sue Storm would rock my world if she really existed.

Oh, and many Spanish-speaking Mexican immigrants and guest workers live in my city. It's not like I haven't seen plenty. As a matter of fact, my mouth is watering for some steak fajitas.
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Old October 9 2011, 01:13 AM   #3458
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Why are we suddenly talking about Jessica Alba now? I was being sarcastic about the hairdo thing earlier. Guess that didn't come across
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Old October 9 2011, 01:16 AM   #3459
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I didn't know Jessica Alba is partly of recent Mexican ancestry. I was too busy being pleased with her casting to notice or even care.
Yep. She looked the part and was great in it.
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Old October 9 2011, 01:24 AM   #3460
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Except Gruffudd wasn't obviously Welsh. He did a reasonable American accent. This actress was obviously Hispanic. I didn't even know who she was before seeing the movie, and my first reaction to her upon seeing the film is "why is Sue Hispanic... and her brother not?"
Other reactions included "why is Sue a sexpot?" and "Wow, she's a bad actress," which I suppose answers the sexpot question.
Since she doesn't speak with an Spanish accent how can she be "obviously Hispanic"? Alba is no more or less Hispanic than Cameron Diaz. Both have fathers who are Hispanic and mothers who are not. If Diaz had been cast would you make the same claim? Or does Diaz not fit your idea of Hispanic because she's a blonde? What if they cast Phoebe Cates or Catherine Zeta -Jones? Both are dark haired and dark eyed, but non-hispanic. Hispanic is not about hair or skin pigmentation.
oh give me a break with the knee-jerk political correctness. Sue Storm is a wasp. This actress was very obviously Hispanic. You don't have to grow up in a Spanish neighborhood (as I did) to be distrscted it. Of course, by your theory, it was just a lucky guess on my part, since you argue that no one "looks" hispanic.
Sorry, that's bull. Some people look Mexican. Some people look like Carribean Hispanics. Some people look like South American Hispanics. Lots of Hispanics look totally Anglo. Lots look totally Negro. But to say that no one looks "Hispanic" is simply disingenuous.

I have no idea what these other people you mention look like. If they have dark hair, there's a good chance they wouldn't have looked natural as a blonde either. Sue Storm is a relatively shy blonde WASP. That's the physical and emotional description of the character. She's not a bottle-blonde who points her tits at anything that moves.
Which of her features are Hispanic? If some look totally Anglo and some totally Negro whats the common physical feature that all Hispanics share that tells you they are Hispanic?

Have you been in solitary confinement or stranded on a island for the last 30 odd years? While Cates' star may have dimmed over the decades, Zeta-Jones' hasn't. She's won an Oscar and Tony within the last decade, You might recall her husband, actor Michael Douglas. Yes both have dark hair and dark eyes and that might be grounds for them being miscast as Sue Storm. Not because their ethnic origins didn't match. (Not that we know for sure Sue is actually Anglo Saxon or Protestant) No Sue is not shy. She was simply sterotypically written as "female" for several decades. (She was prone to capture and fatigue) Jean Grey often suffered from the same malady.
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Old October 9 2011, 01:33 AM   #3461
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Jessica Alba's casting as Sue Storm was a bad as it gets. Whatever colour you think Lois' hair should be just remember that it could be worse.
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Why are we suddenly talking about Jessica Alba now? I was being sarcastic about the hairdo thing earlier. Guess that didn't come across
I think it was time for this thread's bi-weekly tangent discussion. It seems to happen when news is slow and it's been what a few days since we got something!!
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Old October 9 2011, 03:04 AM   #3463
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...whats the common physical feature that all Hispanics share that tells you they are Hispanic?
You should re-read my post. This is pretty much the opposite of what I said. Lots of Hispanics aren't immediately identifiable as Hispanics. This goes for Jews, Italians.... lots of ethnicities. Hell, I don't look Jewish. But I acknowledge that lots of people do.
I don't know a damn thing about Alba, whether she's half this or whole that, or what have you. But when she was playing Sue Richards (and I don't think I've seen her in anything else) she looked Hispanic, whether she is or not.
I don't know why you've seized on this, when I pointed out there were tons of problems with her portrayal of the character (worst of which was that she is just a terrible actress).

And to try to veer back to the topic, Lois should have dark hair. And yes, Lana must always be a redhead.
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Old October 9 2011, 03:23 AM   #3464
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...whats the common physical feature that all Hispanics share that tells you they are Hispanic?
You should re-read my post. This is pretty much the opposite of what I said. Lots of Hispanics aren't immediately identifiable as Hispanics. This goes for Jews, Italians.... lots of ethnicities. Hell, I don't look Jewish. But I acknowledge that lots of people do.
I don't know a damn thing about Alba, whether she's half this or whole that, or what have you. But when she was playing Sue Richards (and I don't think I've seen her in anything else) she looked Hispanic, whether she is or not.
I don't know why you've seized on this, when I pointed out there were tons of problems with her portrayal of the character (worst of which was that she is just a terrible actress).

And to try to veer back to the topic, Lois should have dark hair. And yes, Lana must always be a redhead.
Because someone posted this:
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Though, of course, the movie seemed to go with a whole change of ethnicity, but that's another issue...
and this

This actress was obviously Hispanic. I didn't even know who she was before seeing the movie, and my first reaction to her upon seeing the film is "why is Sue Hispanic... and her brother not?"
and this

This actress was very obviously Hispanic. You don't have to grow up in a Spanish neighborhood (as I did) to be distrscted it. Of course, by your theory, it was just a lucky guess on my part, since you argue that no one "looks" hispanic.
So what about Alba is "obviously Hispanic"? Nose? Eyes? Mouth? Skull? Jaw? Lips? Ears?
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Old October 9 2011, 03:31 AM   #3465
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Lois should have dark hair. And yes, Lana must always be a redhead.
I guess Synder's version of Perry White should have been played by a white 40 to 50 year old actor too.


This is Synder's version of Lois Lane







What fun are comic book movies if director's can't explore outside the confines of what's in the comic's?


It stifles creativity.
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