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Old January 20 2011, 07:04 PM   #1
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Buffyverse: Extent of the Old Ones' domains

Okay, so we know from various episodes of BtVS and Angel that during an epoch known as the Primordium Age, Earth was inhabited by a very large number of demons, e.g. Illyria. But was Earth the only planet they had any real presense on, or did they dominate other parts of our universe? They had access to other dimensions, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to have the means of travelling to other planets within one dimension. But then it's stated a couple of times in the shows that the Old Ones constantly fought one another over domination of Earth; Illyria's seat of power was in prehistoric California, and she was frequently targeted by rivals who wanted her territory for themselves. Why make such a fuss over one planet, if they could go anywhere they liked in the universe and forge their empires on other worlds?
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Old January 21 2011, 03:47 AM   #2
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Re: Buffyverse: Extent of the Old Ones' domains

I like to think they're on other worlds as well as other dimensions.
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Old January 21 2011, 11:29 AM   #3
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I do admit, it would be kind of cool if the Old Ones were active on other planets.
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Old January 21 2011, 11:44 AM   #4
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^OMG we might've just agreed on something
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Old January 21 2011, 01:19 PM   #5
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^OMG we might've just agreed on something
Waiting for Ivanova to discover them?
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Old January 21 2011, 01:21 PM   #6
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^Haha. Interesting crossover idea.
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Old January 21 2011, 02:19 PM   #7
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^OMG we might've just agreed on something
Well I agree that it would be kind of interesting if they voyaged beyond Earth. Whether or not they actually did, is open to debate.

And what's Ivanova?
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Old January 21 2011, 02:27 PM   #8
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Susan Ivanova from B5. I believe the poster was making a reference to the Old Ones of the Buffy Verse being the First Ones (the first sentient intelligent species in the Babylon 5 universe).
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Old January 21 2011, 02:46 PM   #9
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I don't think we're ever going to learn the definitive answers to these sort of questions. Joss Whedon probably wouldn't want to reveal too much about the Primordium Age, and prefer to keep it vague and mysterious. Which I can't really begrudge him for.
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Old January 21 2011, 03:10 PM   #10
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I think that was the intent yes. There was some tease of this in "Fray" where the new leaders of the Watcher's Council were located on a planet.
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Old January 21 2011, 04:05 PM   #11
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Re: Buffyverse: Extent of the Old Ones' domains

hey remember lorne home world where we got to see cordilia in that hot bikini out fit.
well his people are a demon race . and , what about season three premire episode anne where buffy went to rescue the homless kids in that other diaminsion .
so that proves there on other worlds . but, they like ours for some other reason.
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Re: Buffyverse: Extent of the Old Ones' domains

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hey remember lorne home world where we got to see cordilia in that hot bikini out fit.
well his people are a demon race . and , what about season three premire episode anne where buffy went to rescue the homless kids in that other diaminsion .
so that proves there on other worlds . but, they like ours for some other reason.
Those were other dimensions. This thread is wondering if demons are on other worlds within this dimension.
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Old January 21 2011, 09:07 PM   #13
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I think that was the intent yes. There was some tease of this in "Fray" where the new leaders of the Watcher's Council were located on a planet.
Eh, the Watcher's Council on another planet in Fray? I don't recall that. Could you give us some more information on this, please?
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Old January 22 2011, 03:42 AM   #14
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Re: Buffyverse: Extent of the Old Ones' domains

The Watcher's Council on Earth had become a group of fanatics and lunatics, obviously lost their way. I think now that I think about it...they were just Old Ones on the planet I mentioned.
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Old January 22 2011, 11:58 AM   #15
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Yes, I recall the scenes you refer to in Fray now. I'm more of the opinion that the world the demons in the prologue inhabited (which may, or may not, be a planet similar to ours) was located in a separate dimension, rather than somewhere out in space in our own. If you want a Trek analogy, I think that Buffyverse demons are more like Species 8472, who dwell in Fluidic Space, a realm of entirely different physical structure to our own.
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