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Old January 23 2011, 12:47 PM   #16
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Re: The next Batman reboot

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I'd love a period piece.
Personally, I would rather see a period JSA movie (maybe along the lines of The Liberty Files series of several years ago) rather than a contemporary JLA movie. There's no reason why a JSA movie couldn't have Batman.

I'd also think about an adaptation (or a riff on) Gotham by Gaslight, to take advantage of the whole steampunk bubble before it bursts.
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Old January 23 2011, 12:53 PM   #17
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i want a series which uses Robin and brings in Batgirl without fucking it up.
Fuck Robin! All the live action moves he has been in has sucked. Batman works better on his own.
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Old January 23 2011, 01:06 PM   #18
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I have a hunch that when they do eventually re-reboot Batman, they'll re-introduce some of the more fantastical stuff from the comics/cartoons/whatever. The Nolanverse is all about "realism", so I reckon they'll want to go against that in order to distinguish themselves from what came before. Much like Batman Begins used "realism" to distinguish itself from, um, neon and Bat-nipples.

Of course, it all depends on how well the post-Nolan movies do. I do think they'll bring in other directors to continue the Nolanverse without Nolan (it's too much of a money-maker to let go) but if the first post-Nolan film is an utter failure then they may decide to do something more drastic, like a film adaption of "The Dark Knight Returns" or something.
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Old January 23 2011, 02:36 PM   #19
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If Nolan keeps doing stories like this I would like him to make Batman movies for as long as he can direct. Even if it means changing some of the actors. His stories in the 2 Batman movies so far are amazing.
I'll be shocked if he does any more than the trilogy. In fact, I expect there to be some closure to The Dark Knight Rises—Nolan is telling a story, not spinning out a franchise indefinitely.

And I'm fine with that. That's how comics work best, really. Someone else will eventually come along and make their own version of Batman, and we can only hope that it'll be as good.
We can hope, yes.

I don't even really want to think about it right now. I'm happy just enjoying the version of Batman we're getting right now.
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Old January 23 2011, 02:37 PM   #20
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When the Nolan films run out of steam(ie, when he quits doing them and they bring in other directors and fuck everything up again) and they once again reboot the series, I think it would be really cool to have it set in 1939. The animated series kind of had that look, but in a modern setting, and it worked really well. It'd be awesome to see a "period" Batman film. And I know they'd never do this, it's just wishful thinking, but what would be even cooler is if they did it in black and white, in a film noir kind of style. You know, similar to Sin City. A really dark, moody B&W Batman set in the time that the comic debuted, that's my dream Batman movie.
This is one of the best ideas for a batman movie ever, they would never do it, but it would be awesome to see!!!!!!!!!
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Old January 23 2011, 03:07 PM   #21
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Like most geeks who grew up in the 90s, the TAS universe is the definitive Batman world for me, and those characters the definitive versions(for the most part). There is something about that seemingly endless dusk and the odd retro-future aesthetic that seems perfectly suited to Batman and makes his existence easier to accept than in a real gritty world like Nolan's.

As much as I enjoy seeing Bale as Bruce with Chris behind the wheel in those fantastic but subtly flawed films, that shadowy off-kilter setting calls to me with a far stronger siren song than they have yet managed and I would give quite a few spare body parts to make it happen.

A mature, established Batman starting to feel the years of sacrifice and the dozens of life-or-death struggles along the way. A weariness settling on him as he begins to accept that the battle will never end. An enemy that challenges his mind and his constitution as much as it does his strength and gadgets. . . alas.

A man can dream.
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Old January 23 2011, 03:07 PM   #22
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When the Nolan films run out of steam(ie, when he quits doing them and they bring in other directors and fuck everything up again) and they once again reboot the series, I think it would be really cool to have it set in 1939. The animated series kind of had that look, but in a modern setting, and it worked really well. It'd be awesome to see a "period" Batman film. And I know they'd never do this, it's just wishful thinking, but what would be even cooler is if they did it in black and white, in a film noir kind of style. You know, similar to Sin City. A really dark, moody B&W Batman set in the time that the comic debuted, that's my dream Batman movie.
This is one of the best ideas for a batman movie ever, they would never do it, but it would be awesome to see!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad someone sees where I'm coming from. Every time I watch some old gangster film set in Chicago or something like that, with lots of fog and shadows, I always think to myself, "This is a perfect setting for Batman." That style, but with modern production values, in the hands of the right director, would be incredible. Tim Burton's movie had that kind of look about it, but it would be even cooler to have it actually set in that time.
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Old January 23 2011, 03:11 PM   #23
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A neverwhen blending of the 30s-60s and retro-future suits the character better IMO. You have to have some level of advanced technology or he is literally just a tougher Sherlock Holmes in a weird costume.
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Old January 23 2011, 04:24 PM   #24
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Robin would work great if a filmmaker chose to write him with the same type of serious tone (I'm not talking about character I'm talking about tone). There are a number of reasons Robin didn't work in the Schumacher films...they made him too old first of all. That was their first mistake. They made him a whiny brat. As I've mentioned before in other threads the best Dick Grayson origin in my opinion that demonstrates how he could be handled in a mature way is the graphic novel "Batman: Dark Victory". Jeph Loeb's treatment of the character is perfect and riveting and gives emotional context to both Bruce Wayne (who is now forced to become a father figure) and Dick Grayson (who has just lost his parents). Alfred has something more to do as he helps focus and harness Dick's anger and frustration. The scene where Dick discovers that Bruce is Batman is terrific. Anger, frustration, and sadness all in one panel. Just because Robin did not work in one depiction does not mean he can't work in another. Batman always needs a Robin (to paraphrase Tim Drake) in order to provide an anchor. This was served by Rachel Dawes in the two films. Now that Batman doesn't have an anchor in "The Dark Knight Rises" it's going to be interesting to see how Bruce functions.
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Old January 23 2011, 06:01 PM   #25
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I'd love a period piece.
Personally, I would rather see a period JSA movie (maybe along the lines of The Liberty Files series of several years ago) rather than a contemporary JLA movie. There's no reason why a JSA movie couldn't have Batman.

I'd also think about an adaptation (or a riff on) Gotham by Gaslight, to take advantage of the whole steampunk bubble before it bursts.
Oh yeah, I'm a huge JSA fan. In fact, as much as I hated Watchmen as a Watchmen movie, I think the tone would fit a JSA film. The very real setting of World War II juxtaposed by colorful, almost garish costumes. I actually think it would be relatively marketable too. Maybe not by franchise recognition, but by type of story. People love World War II movies and they love Superhero movies. Combine the two and you have a gold. Plus Flash and Green Lantern ar epretty recognizable.
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Old January 23 2011, 06:15 PM   #26
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Batman Beyond by Ridely Scott.

Or one offs, different styles, directors, actors based on comics like "The Dark Knight Returns" etc.

Or a continuation of the world created by Nolan, but not a direct continuation of the story but using it's tone and style as it's foundation.
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Old January 23 2011, 06:33 PM   #27
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I could get into your middle option. I think that's probably going to be the most economically and creatively feasible at this point.
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Old January 23 2011, 07:01 PM   #29
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Maybe not explicitly a period piece, but a live action version of the Animated Series would make me so happy.
Arguably that's what the Burton films were at least in terms of the look of the sets and costumes. In fact, as I recall, Burton originally had a certain amount input on the design of the Timm series.
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Maybe not explicitly a period piece, but a live action version of the Animated Series would make me so happy.
Arguably that's what the Burton films were at least in terms of the look of the sets and costumes. In fact, as I recall, Burton originally had a certain amount input on the design of the Timm series.
That's true. I didn't really like the Burton movies though. To me, they felt more like Tim Burton movies than Batman movies.
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