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Old May 29 2013, 10:47 PM   #1156
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I'd still like season 5 to have an increased order to 16 episodes, so that if season 5 is indeed the final season, the show finishes with exactly 100 episodes.
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Old May 30 2013, 01:11 PM   #1157
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One wonders if the replacements are moving on to facilitate the return of the originals. Would be nice if they were that gracious, but a job's still a job...
Everything I've heard about the behind the scenes of Community suggests that it's a horrible place to work as a writer. During the first three seasons this was put down to Harmon's managerial style (which is something he himself admits he wasn't good at) but the atmosphere didn't seem to improve under Guarascio and Port. Given the stress and long hours they would have endured only to end up with a lacklustre season that disappointed fans, I can see why Guarascio and Port would choose not to return for season 5. I believe some other writers also left after season 4 for similar reasons.

With the new showrunners gone, Sony had a dilemma in replacing them as most of the senior producers on Community left after season 3. They'd need to hire someone in from outside again, which hadn't worked so well last time they tried it, and it would probably piss off fans even more if they hadn't at least tried to bring Harmon back.
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Old May 30 2013, 03:14 PM   #1158
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Everything I've heard about the behind the scenes of Community suggests that it's a horrible place to work as a writer. During the first three seasons this was put down to Harmon's managerial style (which is something he himself admits he wasn't good at) but the atmosphere didn't seem to improve under Guarascio and Port.
Can't be any worse than the writer's room on South Park.
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Old June 1 2013, 06:56 PM   #1159
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Harmon confirms his return.

Gives me a reason to start watching again.
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Old June 1 2013, 07:35 PM   #1160
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Very glad about this. I hope he's been thinking about new episodes/story lines over the past year. I look forward to see what happens in season 5. It doesn't say yet why his job will be. Hope he can be show runner again. Also hope they bring back Chris McKenna too, he wrote some of my favorite episodes.
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Old June 1 2013, 10:35 PM   #1161
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When they first fired Harmon I heard that one of the new showrunner was the showrunner of Just Shoot Me. And then they released a press release saying "Don't worry, we'll make the characters just as quirky as they used to be."

That's the real issue with this season. The people making the decisions had no idea why the show was good. They understood what sort of storylines worked in Community, and they understood basically how the characters worked. But they had no idea why it all worked and why it was all funny. The D&D episode wasn't funny because it was a D&D episode, it was funny because the writer of the episode really got D&D and created an episode that anybody who ever played it identified with. The season 4 crew just didn't get what about the show's subject matter made the audience like it.

I figure the reason they're bringing it back is that most of its viewers are in the big money-spending demographic, and because the ratings underrate the actual viewership because none of the viewers watch it during its actual timeslot.
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Old June 1 2013, 11:17 PM   #1162
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...that, and the fact that NBC has such a crap lineup they don't have too many options to replace it with.
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Old June 2 2013, 12:10 AM   #1163
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Except it has been replaced. It's not on their schedule, at all (not even the spring schedule). So, now we're waiting for one of its replacements to fail. Which may not take long, we shall see.

I'm glad that Dan Harmon will be back. I've never been one of the show's die hard fans but I mostly enjoy it. I can say that for this past season as well, but it sucks that the show was taken away from its creator. It's nice when the creative people win.
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Old June 2 2013, 12:14 AM   #1164
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Except it has been replaced. It's not on their schedule, at all (not even the spring schedule). So, now we're waiting for one of its replacements to fail. Which may not take long, we shall see.
Given the survival rate of stuff on NBC, once the season starts, we won't have to wait long for options to open up.
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Old June 2 2013, 12:20 AM   #1165
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One would hope. Took a while this last season, though.
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Old June 2 2013, 05:11 AM   #1166
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NBC has like 20 new shows. A few of them are going to fail.

I have a feeling Community is going to be treated like NBC's King Of The Hill for the next few years.
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Old June 2 2013, 10:49 AM   #1167
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Damn straight.

Well, I found this show a few weeks ago, watched it all in marathons, great great show. Then read this entire thread over 3 days. Wow, some of you guys (and it is mainly guys in here) are very 'shippy! That said, the Troy/Britta thing? If Troy was a JW, he'd be shunned for his Godless fornicatin' with the Godless atheist. Donald Glover would know that.

No one mentioned 'Biology 101' in which they referenced '2001' and was pretty well done.

And in the psych hospital scene when the Dean talked to Dr Garrett, and Garrett replies in a deep voice, that cracked me up.

Rewatching the L&O ep, pretty good.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:50 PM   #1168
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Not that there was any doubt, but it does appear Harmon is coming back as showrunner:

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...unity-20130601
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Old June 3 2013, 02:46 PM   #1169
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Dan Harmon has revealed that Chris McKenna will be returning to the show with the role of co-showrunner, which is excellent news. Harmon also claims that he has not watched any of season 4 and that Sony have suggested him recording a DVD commentary track of his first viewing of the season. That sounds like a really interesting idea, but on the other hand it has the potential to be really awkward.
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Old June 3 2013, 05:44 PM   #1170
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Dan Harmon has revealed that Chris McKenna will be returning to the show with the role of co-showrunner, which is excellent news. Harmon also claims that he has not watched any of season 4 and that Sony have suggested him recording a DVD commentary track of his first viewing of the season. That sounds like a really interesting idea, but on the other hand it has the potential to be really awkward.
Yeah. I hope they don't do that. I didn't like Season 4 and actually stopped watching. But that sorta sounds like a douchey thing to do. What if Harmon really hates it? I would hope he doesn't crap on the writers, that would be douchey of him. But, I don't want to hear him try to be nice...

... of course, who am I kidding, I'm not going to watch season four on DVD.
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