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Old October 12 2011, 02:10 PM   #391
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Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012!

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Adele is doing the song. Not confirmed.
Isn't her voice/vocal cords/singing ability, for use of a better word, fucked at the moment though? But yeah, Adele is a good choice, would also be nice for an English singer doing the song again.

As for the name, Skyfall could possibly be an appropriate title depending on what it means.

I'm also wondering, is Craig's Bond a Naval Commander and will we see him in uniform at some stage?
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Old October 12 2011, 02:11 PM   #392
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So far we've had no references to Bond's naval career which I have found interesting. Perhaps we'll get some in Bond 23.
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Old October 12 2011, 02:23 PM   #393
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So far we've had no references to Bond's naval career which I have found interesting.
Well to be fair we have, just not in Casino Royal and Quantum or Solace and because I was aware of that fact, I asked the question. As for it's lack of mention, it's neither been important to the character nor the stories of CR or QoS so it has been omitted.
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Old October 12 2011, 02:31 PM   #394
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^ I meant to say references to his naval career in the Craig era, got muddled in my response. You're right that it isn't important at least in the way the Craig Bond has been portrayed since the reboot but it has been part of the characters backstory and one assumes that M recruited him from somewhere prior to "Casino Royale".
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Old October 12 2011, 02:33 PM   #395
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Vesper makes reference in CR to MI6 recruiting ex SAS types, and I have a sneaking remembrance that before CR came out the official website had some kind of mock file for Bond that said he was SAS.

I think he should always have been a naval commander at some point, which leaves the possibility that maybe he became SBS? (Special Boat Service in case anyone's wondering.)

As for the song, I think Adele would be great. The problem with her voice is, currently at least, not permanant, although if she isn't careful it might be--hence cancelling so many gigs.

I still think its a shame that Amy Winehouse was too screwed up to do the song for QoS, I'd have loved to have heard an Amy Winehouse Bond track.
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Old October 13 2011, 11:54 AM   #396
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I still think its a shame that Amy Winehouse was too screwed up to do the song for QoS, I'd have loved to have heard an Amy Winehouse Bond track.
Especially considering the song David Arnold and Don Black had written for her, "No Good about Goodbye", of which Arnold actually used some cues for the score. He later gave the song to Shirley Bassey, putting it on her album The Performance which he produced.
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Old October 13 2011, 03:30 PM   #397
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Adele is doing the song. Not confirmed.
Isn't her voice/vocal cords/singing ability, for use of a better word, fucked at the moment though? But yeah, Adele is a good choice, would also be nice for an English singer doing the song again.

As for the name, Skyfall could possibly be an appropriate title depending on what it means.

I'm also wondering, is Craig's Bond a Naval Commander and will we see him in uniform at some stage?
Didn't know she was having problems. she was on the Jonathan Ross show a few weeks back and mentioned she was planning to work on a song in November, just one song she said to which Ross started doing the James Bond theme and she said she couldn't say anything about it. So I guess it's a good bet it's her since she didn't deny it.
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Old October 13 2011, 03:32 PM   #398
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She's cancelled a few gigs in the UK, and just last week cancelled her whole US tour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/15179395
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Old October 25 2011, 12:54 PM   #399
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According to Total Film, who got their source from a British news organization called The Express, the next James Bond film, purportedly titled Skyfall, is going to be the least action-oriented Bond film in recent history.

Bond, James Bond has pulled off some tricks in his career but if the rumours are true that director Sam Mendes plans to ditch action scenes in favour of “characterful performances”, then this could be the hardest job 007 has ever had to tackle.
Apparently director Sam Mendes has been nixing several action sequences and instead aiming to focus the film more on its story and characters. According to the source, Mendes is trying to make an Oscar-worthy James Bond film.

I'm not so sure of this approach. While I am extremely excited that we live in a day and age where we're getting a James Bond movie from Sam Mendes and starring the likes of Daniel Craig, Javier Bardem and Ralph Fiennes, I am not sure if scaling back the action is going to appease most Bond and modern, mainstream movie fans.

People complained that Quantum of Solace was too action-heavy and felt like a generic action film rather than an authentic Bond film, but I am not necessarily sure that scaling back the action is going to turn the tide. If anything, it could alienate most mainstream audiences even more, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

EON Productions and the Bond production team should be hosting an official press conference any day now. I believe filming is scheduled to start sometime in November.
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Old October 25 2011, 01:45 PM   #400
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So basically it'd be like the Casino Royale bits of 'Casino Royale'!

I have no problem with them lightening the action a bit, and it'd be nice to see Bond doing some actual spying, but there has to be some action in this surely! I suspect this is a case of someone at The Express reading between the lines, adding two and two together and getting (00)7

It might simply be a case of Mendes saying "I don't want to do the car chase, shoot out and helicopter duel, I just want to do the car chase and the shoot out."

Or maybe he's gonna turn Bond all Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
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Old October 25 2011, 02:18 PM   #401
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I call bull on this story.

A James Bond movie in the style of "The Good Shepherd" would be suicide at the box offices.

Who want's the see this ending?


The Climatic showdown to "Skyfall"

*James Bond and the bad guy have a psychological discussion while sitting at opposite ends of a table*
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Old October 25 2011, 02:28 PM   #402
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It's the Daily Express. That makes the story automatically suspect. Think the Daily Mail but even less reliable.
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Old October 25 2011, 03:27 PM   #403
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If they replace the action scenes with actual spying, I'd be OK with it. Some of the old Bond movies had a bit of a slower pace. I think From Russia with Love should be the ideal balance. But that still has a couple of cool action scenes (the Gypsy fight and the Train scene). I'm sure those won't go out the window.

That is, assuming there's any truth to these statements at all.
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Old October 25 2011, 03:35 PM   #404
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If they replace the action scenes with actual spying, I'd be OK with it. Some of the old Bond movies had a bit of a slower pace. I think From Russia with Love should be the ideal balance. But that still has a couple of cool action scenes (the Gypsy fight and the Train scene). I'm sure those won't go out the window.

That is, assuming there's any truth to these statements at all.
Agreed. I could accept them scaling back the action scenes in reasonable measure. Sometimes I think they can carried away and go too far. On second viewing Quantum Of Solace wasn't bad, but some of the action went too far.

Recently watched Dr. No and there's a lot of good stuff in it although some of the action now seems rather dated. But From Russia With Love and Casino Royale each have a nice balance and I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.
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Old October 25 2011, 03:57 PM   #405
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From an action perspective I still find QoS more balanced than Casino Royale, especially the tacked on Venice scenes which don't even fit with the rest of the film which is all about mano-a-mano action- Viper vs Mongoose, Bond vs free runner, Bond vs bomber at Miami, Bond vs Le Chiffre at cards, Bond vs African warlord etc etc, you then get Bond vs a bunch of guys and it doesn't quite fit (though its a decent set piece in its own right).

Trouble is QoS is so short that if they'd taken any of the action scenes out it'd have probably ended up the first 90 minute Bond film!

Then again after the very long Cr I actually found the short frenetic QoS quite refreshing.
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