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Old August 21 2011, 07:13 PM   #241
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Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012!

I wonder if this'll be a lower-budget, more low-key Bond due to MGM's troubles.

Then again that would save the dodgy CG-something not noticeable in CR but definetly a problem in QOS.


Then again, a lower budget doesn't always work out for the series. Diamonds Are Forever, Live and Let Die and Man with the Golden Gun were kind of done cheaply and they're arguably the most dated Bond films. On the flip side, For Your Eyes Only is one of Roger Moore's more highly regarded films and it definetly had a lower-budget than Moonraker and Octopussy.
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Old August 22 2011, 12:49 PM   #242
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I wonder if this'll be a lower-budget, more low-key Bond due to MGM's troubles.

Then again that would save the dodgy CG-something not noticeable in CR but definetly a problem in QOS.
Where was it noticeable in QOS?

I don't think budgets are going to be a problem with James Bond because unlike, say, Cowboys and Aliens, it's as close to a sure thing as anything in Hollywood. Some consider QOS the worst Bond film ever, but it still made more money than any of the others and Bonds continue to generate money on TV and DVD/BD sales for years.

Craig's Bonds are already low-key. I doubt we'll see them remaking Moonraker anytime soon.

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Old August 22 2011, 01:07 PM   #243
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QoS is far from being the worst Bond film ever, IMO. I don't recall much dodgy CG either?
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Old August 22 2011, 05:33 PM   #244
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QoS is far from being the worst Bond film ever, IMO. I don't recall much dodgy CG either?
Indeed. Doesn't Moonraker take that title?
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Old August 22 2011, 08:20 PM   #245
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I don't remember much CG in Moonraker. (But seriously, I would certainly say it's one of the worst Bond films - I can never make up my mind whether I think Moonraker or A View to a Kill is worse.)
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Old August 22 2011, 08:25 PM   #246
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AVtAK has one thing going for it: Walken. Even if it's the worse use of Walken in history, it's still Christopher freakin Walken.
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Old August 22 2011, 09:46 PM   #247
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A View To A Kill or Die Another Day. Moonraker, to me, is campy fun.
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Old August 22 2011, 11:13 PM   #248
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Where was it noticeable in QOS?
Jumping out the plane stands out somewhat, unlike Moonraker which just kept throwing stunt guys out of planes until it had all the shots for the sequence.
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Old August 23 2011, 01:57 AM   #249
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What the hell do people have against A View to A Kill and Moonraker?
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Old August 23 2011, 02:12 AM   #250
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They sucked?
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Old August 23 2011, 03:57 AM   #251
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I doubt we'll see them remaking Moonraker anytime soon.

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Actually if they adapted the original novel more closely it could be a damn fine movie.
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Old August 23 2011, 09:54 AM   #252
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I really like Moonraker, its dumb and fun. I mean. Bond...IN SPACE! Only Rog could have got away with that...

For me the worst Bond films are:

Thunderball: dullest Connery film (at least Diamonds was fun) the ending is limp and while I'm sure the underwater scenes were a huge technical undertaking, they get more than a little repetative)

AVTAK: It isn't dull, I'll give it that, but surrounding Rog with old people whilst making the villains ridiculously young just makes him seem even creakier. Walken would have made a better villain when he was older, and Tanya Roberts, worst Bond girl, EVER!

TWINE: Just so turgid, and frankly it lost me during the pre title sequence and never really got me back. On the face of it a speedboat chase up the Thames is cool, but it all feels so contrived, from Cigar girl sitting outside of MI6 headquarters, in a boat bristling with guns (which makes no sense whatsoever) to the fact Q just happened to have a speedboat ready, and the kicker; Brosnan adjusting his tie under water. It wants to be the St Petersberg tank chase so bad its painful. Add to this a woeful Bond girl (more European unknowns less Hollywood starlets please) a terrible henchman (I like Carlyle but he's woeful here) and some surprisngly dull set pieces (specifically the alpine scenes) and I just don't like it. Sophie Marceu is good however, and Q's farewell just brilliant, but that's about it.

Special mention for FYEO, which is an odd film. Sometimes I've watched it and been bored to tears, other times I've found myself really enjoying the pared down nature of it, it's probably the one 007 film I have no cast iron opinions of!

Of course I'm also one of only 15 people in the world who like QoS so what do I know
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Old August 23 2011, 10:37 AM   #253
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AVtAK has one thing going for it: Walken. Even if it's the worse use of Walken in history, it's still Christopher freakin Walken.

While I agree with you, I still have to say that Moonraker had a pretty good villain. Michael Lonsdale had some of the best one liners of the series. I can't really say I like either Moonraker or AVTAK, but both had some very fun antagonist.

Now TWINE and DAD....
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Old August 24 2011, 12:16 AM   #254
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I have a soft spot for The World is not Enough. I think the film would be better remembered if Denise Richards wasn't so horribly miscast.
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Old August 24 2011, 06:45 PM   #255
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Worst Bond movies?

TMWTGG - stupid, but does have a career-best performance from Christopher Lee

AVTAK - Utterly utterly boring. Walken is having fun, but it would have been nice had they remembered that the audience is also supposed to have fun.

Personally, I love Moonraker (people who hate it tend to be diehard fans of the Fleming books, but I'm willing to accept two different Bond canons in different media, and while Moonraker may be rubbish Bond - I'd love to see a three or four episode BBC period drama serial of the original book - it's great summer cinema.) and TWINE (my favourite of the Brosnan Bonds). DAD is also great fun - annoying in places, but it's a fun anniversary runaround.
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