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Old December 13 2010, 11:38 AM   #61
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Yeah, I remember Shepard making that leap onto the Normandy at the end of ME2 and just holding my breath. I knew that I made mostly right calls during the mission, but knowing there there was a possibility Shepard would die made me nervous right up until the moment the ship "warped" away.
On that scene I was basically shouting at my TV ordering him to make that jump
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Old December 13 2010, 12:27 PM   #62
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Competitive multiplayer wouldn't be something I'd be interested in, but the game is almost screaming out for a co-op mode. One person could play as Shepard and make all the decisions, while I could play as Garrus. I'd stop playing singleplayer altogether and I'd just stick to being Garrus 100% of the time.
Those are my favourite. We had great fun playing Army of Two so I got the sequel for his Santa stocking.
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Old December 13 2010, 12:33 PM   #63
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Awesome trailer.

I'm already pencilliing in ME3 for GOTY......
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Old December 13 2010, 05:23 PM   #64
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I don't think saving the base will be required to win, but I do think it will make victory easier or lower the death-count in ME3. I've watched a couple of let's plays and I've read some comments online where people blew up the base because it seemed like the right thing to do, and while I understand that decision, I decided to save it because I was thinking ahead to the third game. If that decision doesn't have a big impact on ME3 I'll be disappointed and made to look like a chump. I don't want that, I want everyone else to feel like chumps.
My personal suspicion is that saving the base will (among other things) lead to that "all hail our human overlords" ending I predicted earlier. The other things probably being having a human dominated council, supporting Terra Firma and basically doing anything pro-human.

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Yeah, I remember Shepard making that leap onto the Normandy at the end of ME2 and just holding my breath. I knew that I made mostly right calls during the mission, but knowing there there was a possibility Shepard would die made me nervous right up until the moment the ship "warped" away.
On that scene I was basically shouting at my TV ordering him to make that jump
I was far more concerned about my two squad members. For a second I thought Tali was going over the edge. That would have meant a replay for me since there was no way I was going to have a save file for ME3 where one of the most interesting characters in the entire franchise was dead already.
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Old December 13 2010, 05:26 PM   #65
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Yeah, I remember Shepard making that leap onto the Normandy at the end of ME2 and just holding my breath. I knew that I made mostly right calls during the mission, but knowing there there was a possibility Shepard would die made me nervous right up until the moment the ship "warped" away.
On that scene I was basically shouting at my TV ordering him to make that jump
I was far more concerned about my two squad members. For a second I thought Tali was going over the edge. That would have meant a replay for me since there was no way I was going to have a save file for ME3 where one of the most interesting characters in the entire franchise was dead already.
Same for me, with her and Garrus I was basically shouting "Don't you dare die on me, Tali! Don't you fucking dare die!" and then the same for Garrus. I had already lost 3 or 4 people by that point (can't remember when Zaeed died in that playthrough), one of them being loyal, so I wasn't sure at that point what criteria would result in losing them 2.
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Old December 13 2010, 07:31 PM   #66
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Now given the impending ME3, I'm strategizing some playthoughs that I will do (ME1 and ME2) to have things in all different directions for ME3 when it comes out.
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Old December 14 2010, 12:37 AM   #67
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^Already done that. I have about 5 sheps all ready to go! Check out the Mass Effect 2 thread, there's pages and pages of us coming up with interesting scenarios; my favourite is still "looser Shep", that should be very interesting.
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Old December 14 2010, 01:04 AM   #68
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If they already had that Mass Relay they would have used it in the two year interval...clearly they had plenty of minions to activate it...the Geth and Collectors combined. Infact I find it rather odd that the Collectors weren't part of the first invasion....makes no sense. It would be lame to do another...lost relay...they've done it twice now and to go back to the same barrel...would be flat after what they achieved in the First Game.
The Collectors may have been formidable, but there's no way they'd have been much use in the Eden Prime War. All they appear to have is one base, and one very big ship...that's all. They're good at sneaking around and taking out defensless colonies and isolated ships but the Citadel fleet? No. Hell even Sovereign couldn't hold it's own against one of Earth's fleets. That whole battle sequence at the end of ME1 was just a mad dash to get the Citadel Relay open before the Reaper's kinetic barriers failed. The Geth on the other hand were recruited as canon fodder, so they were much more useful.

As for the rest, it's all under the assumption that Mass Relays are the only way Reapers know how to get around. They have been around for billions of years and I'm sure they have plenty more tools at their disposal than what we've seen already. Don't forget that the Mass Relay network was specifically created as a giant mouse trap, not necessarily as the Reapers' only means of getting around the galaxy.

Given what was going on with the stars I'll take a wild guess and say they're either collapsing stars to form singularities, wormholes or some such...OR they're building some kind of quantum entanglement teleporter.

As for the Human Reaper, it's not clear exactly what it's function would have been since there's still plenty we don't understand about the nature of Reapers. Whatever it's intended function, it's clear that just another run at the Citadel would be a bad idea. Plus they didn't want to build just any old Reaper, they specifically singled out humans.

Wait...Sovereign was trashing the Turian Fleet and the Earth Fleet. Shepard disabled it's avatar which for some reason disrupted the Machine itself. (don't get me started on that) but...I let that go. I try not to be too stringent on game plots but Mass Effect is getting serious now.

You're right the Collectors did seem to be Ace in the hole or something.

I'm sure they Reapers could actuallly travel back....but that would take alot of time. I don't get the human Reaper it doesn't make sense for machines with a God complex to wish to be born in the form of both humans and macines or what makes humans so special. I think it was a fluff ending to what was really a fluff game of killers and assassins. They did it to get the ratings so to speak.

I will be pleasantly surprised if they somehow pull mass Effect 2's Off story into Mass Effect 3 and back to 1.
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Old December 14 2010, 01:27 AM   #69
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One thing's for sure: Sovereign may not have wiped out the Citadel, but he sure nuked my 360.
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Old December 14 2010, 01:47 AM   #70
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One thing's for sure: Sovereign may not have wiped out the Citadel, but he sure nuked my 360.
Well, good news! Mass Effect 2 is being ported over to the PS3, and it'll come with some sort of interactive digital comic that'll let you make the major decisions we had to make in ME1. And then ME3 will be released on the PS3 as well, of course.
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Old December 14 2010, 01:59 AM   #71
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I'm sure they Reapers could actuallly travel back....but that would take alot of time. I don't get the human Reaper it doesn't make sense for machines with a God complex to wish to be born in the form of both humans and macines or what makes humans so special.
I got a little theory on this, the Reapers are OLD as we know and I don't care how advance they are...they have to feel the effects of that age. I wonder if at the end of every cycle or certain cycles they need to create themselves literally new bodies or ships to us. There essential machines but they must have some sort of biological parts too them and maybe they just pick the strongest species to them or the one easiest to create there next generatinon of bodies/ships.

It might explain why Earth is one of the first targets.
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Old December 14 2010, 02:25 AM   #72
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[...] And then ME3 will be released on the PS3 as well, of course.
And all three versions will be released on the same day! PS3 owners get two Mass Effect games in one year.
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Old December 14 2010, 02:55 AM   #73
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It better come out in 2014. I really want them to take their time on it.
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Old December 14 2010, 05:23 AM   #74
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I wanna touch back on my little theory that the human reaper is what will be there next form as they use species from their cycles to renew themselves into new bodies...I was listening to what Harbinger said at the end of Mass Effect 2...

Your species will be raised to a new existence

We Are The Harbinger Of Your Perfection

You will surrender your potential against the growing void

We will bring your species into harmony with our own

We are the beginning you are the end
Seems pretty clear to me we are going to be used as the next evolution of the reaper, which makes ME2 ending a lot better IMO.
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Old December 14 2010, 05:38 AM   #75
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My personal suspicion is that saving the base will (among other things) lead to that "all hail our human overlords" ending I predicted earlier. The other things probably being having a human dominated council, supporting Terra Firma and basically doing anything pro-human.
Even better. Cerberus would rule the galaxy, and if there's anything I know about the Illusive Man it's that he made a great President in The West Wing. The galaxy would be thankful to have him in charge instead of Quark, the bland Asari and Mr Airquotes.

Actually, they're dead in that playthrough, that pimp from Requiem For a Dream is running things. He's still better than Mr Airquotes though.

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Now given the impending ME3, I'm strategizing some playthoughs that I will do (ME1 and ME2) to have things in all different directions for ME3 when it comes out.
I plan to have 4 by the time ME3 comes out. The first one was a combination of decisions I would have made mixed with what I thought made the best story, the second one is the complete opposite of the first one, the third one is a full paragon and the final one will be a full renegade. Once I'm finished ME3 and know all the outcomes I intend to do a fifth one where I make the decisions that lead to the best outcome, and a sixth one where I make all the worst decisions. That last one should be fun.

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I don't get the human Reaper it doesn't make sense for machines with a God complex to wish to be born in the form of both humans and macines or what makes humans so special.
As far as I can tell, the Reapers are kind of like the Borg but with a very exclusive membership process. They were turning humans into a Reaper because it's like their assimilation process, which is why the Reaper fleet could be seen to have multiple types of ships. The Reapers may view themselves as gods of a sort, but that doesn't mean they see us as being entirely beneath them, they're actually looking for species that are worthy for the process of ascension. The galactic extinction cycle is their form of procreation.

At least, that's what I think they're up to.

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It better come out in 2014. I really want them to take their time on it.
Why? ME2 came out 26 months after ME1, while ME3 is likely to come out 22 months after ME2. The cycle is 4 months shorter this time, but that's because ME2 overhauled the combat system (which ME3 will only need to tweak now) and the story for ME3 was being worked on while ME2 was still in development.

I don't want the game to be rushed out before it's ready, but Bioware has grown to be very big so if they think that they can handle ME3 in slightly less time than it took to make ME2, I trust them.
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