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Old July 20 2011, 11:39 PM   #361
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Sometimes I think I'm the only one out there who prefers Meer's Shepard over Hale's. Theres something about her voice I just can't stand. Almost like she is trying too hard to sound Butch. Whereas to me, Meer's Shepard always comes off as someone trying to sound brave and heroic. Maybe that's why whenever I play as a male I can't help but go full hero of the galaxy paragon, and whenever I play as a female I can't help but come off as a renegade butch bitch.
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Old July 21 2011, 12:38 AM   #362
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I'm with you, HotRod. The difference is especially noticeable when playing a Renegade Shepard. Mark Meer's Renegade delivery is suitably menacing and often hilarious (in a good way), while Hale's sounds very forced and overdone.
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Old July 21 2011, 01:03 AM   #363
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^ I'm with you guys. Male Shepard sounds natural, while Female Shepard sounds forced. Nothing against the voice actress, she's awesome in other things, ME just isn't her best work.
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Old July 21 2011, 06:23 AM   #364
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Has there been discussion about after the ME3 wraps up, to continue with stories in the ME universe? I could totally see a ME universe game set up after the events in ME3..maybe like a Moo3/Galatic Civ style kind of game.
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Old July 21 2011, 07:58 AM   #365
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Re: Mass Effect 3

^Assuming ME3 isn't a commercial disaster, I think the chances of them continuing the franchise in some form is exceedingly high.

The possibility of an MMO has been tossed around I think, but that might be a tricky proposition given that'd it'd be in direct competition with 'Old Republic.'

Probably the safest route would simply be another RPG trilogy with a new central character, possibly set some years, decades or centuries after the "current" events.
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Old July 21 2011, 08:10 AM   #366
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This is coming from a newcomer to the ME universe (having bought and beaten ME2 during the Steam Summer Sale), but can someone just pinch the VA for Male Shepard so he EMOTES? Dear god, it's like listening to a toddler read Shakespeare.

As for ME3, I'd love if it they gave you even more facial and hair customization for a new Shepard, and allow you to customize the locked armor sets, at least as far as paint and patterns go.

I don't feel like giving up my typical iridescent paint scheme for a walking ad for Cerberus.
At least I'm not the only one who noticed...Meer's acting in the first was incredible...this game just feel short of the last at least by that much and Hale did an incredible job...whether she's paragon or renegade the voice is hot.

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To be fair, being the first squadmate you acquire he sort of has to be the least useful and least interesting otherwise a player might not be as interesting in playing with some of the others.

It's sort of compounded by the fact that by the time that you've levelled up to the point where he might actually be of some use, you'll have a whole slew of much more interesting and powerful characters and will have probably forgotten he's even there.

I felt I had to use the Cereberus crew ever time I was on a recruitment mission...our other people just seemed to stick out too much.

Another factor may have been that his loyalty mission was so dull and disconnected with the rest of the plot. Plus of course the fact that Miranda, Tali, Thane, Samara and (I suppose) Legion also all had loyalty missions that involved family members didn't help much either. I mean, who cares that his father turned out to be a power mad castaway/rapist? What did that add to Jacob's character exactly?
His was boring but none of the other loyalty missions had anything to do with the plot of the game. Except for Legion because at least the Geth were working for the Reapers.
On top of that I get the impression there was supposed to be a rivalry between Jacob and Thane similar to the Jack/Miranda & Tali/Legion confrontations that was ultimately cut out of the game (I think Grunt and Mordin were supposed to have one too.)
The Thane/ Jacob rivalry occurred to me too.
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Old July 21 2011, 08:50 AM   #367
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His was boring but none of the other loyalty missions had anything to do with the plot of the game. Except for Legion because at least the Geth were working for the Reapers.
Tali's loyalty mission took us to the Migrant fleet for the first time, gave us our first real look into quarrian culture and the possibility to sway opinion for or aginst a war with the geth. I'd say that's significant. Mordin's mission may also have very significant lasting repercussions. While the repercussions were strictly personal, Jack's mission served to remind the player just what kind of organization Cerberus is and just how many skeletons are lurking the the closet.

Granted the loyalty missions for Miranda, Thane's, Garrus and Samara didn't have much of a connection the the rest of the game plotwise, but they all served to advance their respective character arcs and deepen our understand of them. What did we get out of Jacob? His father was an arsehole. Whoopie.

With all the others you get a real sense that something in them has changed once they're "loyal." Either a weight has been lifted, or a new sense of purpose and meaning is found or a new perspective is gained. With Jacob you never get that there's anything dogging him (besides being Miranda's ex) until he the moment he mentions the distress beacon. What little angst he appeared to have seemed to be rooted in his frustration at Alliance and Citadel politics getting in the way what needs to be done. So some mission relating perhaps to his time as a corsair might have much easily addressed that. His daddy issues came out of nowhere and disappeared just as fast.
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Old July 21 2011, 11:15 AM   #368
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[Tali's loyalty mission took us to the Migrant fleet for the first time, gave us our first real look into quarrian culture and the possibility to sway opinion for or aginst a war with the geth. I'd say that's significant. Mordin's mission may also have very significant lasting repercussions. While the repercussions were strictly personal, Jack's mission served to remind the player just what kind of organization Cerberus is and just how many skeletons are lurking the the closet.
I enjoyed the Migrant fleet mission. I had always wanted to go there. I just love that girl and that was the mission that felt the most like I still playing the first Mass Effect. But it wasn't related with the story's plot of "Humans are disapearing". That's how the game was introduced in teaser and that's what the plot was. Will it all be linked...I'm sure they'll do something. ME2 was a big game but those loyalty missions were more about ME3 than ME2.

Granted the loyalty missions for Miranda, Thane's, Garrus and Samara didn't have much of a connection the the rest of the game plotwise, but they all served to advance their respective character arcs and deepen our understand of them. What did we get out of Jacob? His father was an arsehole. Whoopie.
I can sympathize with that though.
I had a similar father until...
With all the others you get a real sense that something in them has changed once they're "loyal."
Miranda: Didn't get that feeling. She still treated Jack badly ans she still had stick to be removed. I have this thing about people that treat the abused badly and she made that mistake too many times.

Jack: I think it actually did dedicate Jack to you yes. Jack was the character I most drawn and repelled by. Jack definitely needed to blow that place up. And it was weird because I didn't want to take her there because I though I would alienate Cerberus in the process. So I delayed.

Thane: I loved talking with him. His story was a mystery. I don't think I felt him any more loyalty to him than before he dedicated himself to me

Zaeed: He was an idiot but what do expect from a Mercenary. He's a hired gun I felt the loyaltay bit for him was ridiculous.

Mordin: I didn't get it. We rush there to save the day and don't save anyone.

Tali: Felt REAL, the death of her father made that so much more powerful. It definitely developed Tali just as well as she was in the first game.

Garrus: Seemed a bit on the superficial side. We need more anxiety on his part before hand to make the mission feel more like a release and I know they kept saying "you've changed" but I didn't see it much.

Grunt: The Rutting thing was exciting and it really felt like Grunt got things clear in his head. This makes believe that it's the actors pulling this off and not just the story itself.

Samara: extremely tanget. Most of the loyalty missions...(if not all ) are just to coincidental for my taste. This is one of them and its too often family related. While the mission was kewl and unique it felt forced. At least we were running and gunning through another loyalty mission again.

Kasumi: I thought her mission should have been the first mission we did instead of straight up combat...it would have been nice to string together a little intrigue between the illusive man and her bad guy. I didn't get the feeling she was more at ease...it was just another mission to me.
. Either a weight has been lifted, or a new sense of purpose and meaning is found or a new perspective is gained. With Jacob you never get that there's anything dogging him (besides being Miranda's ex) until he the moment he mentions the distress beacon.
And I understand that it was supposed to be out of the blue but it felt uh...boring.

For some reason I feel Jack's Tali's and Liara's mission were the most profound and potentially most important. The game should have ended on the Liar of the shadow broker. Jack blowing up the Cerberus installation should have come just before that leading to a break away from Cerberus and Kasumi's first with Jack's following.

Grunt would have been a necessary side mission like picking up Jack after payment. It would have been a shorter game but it also would have made a bit more sense and then you could pick up the other characters directly by payment...(the point of resource hunting) . There missions would have been there but there would be no loyalty factor....
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Old July 22 2011, 09:38 PM   #369
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Just noticed a new "N7 Ops" section on the official website. Nothing huge but there's what looks like the codex entry for Thessia (the Asari homeworld), a Cerberus trooper, a new assault rifle (with built in grenade launcher if I'm reading it right) and some odd little mini-game.
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Old July 24 2011, 11:48 AM   #370
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Sorry for the double post, but this looks interesting. Looks like Bioware is offering fans (the ones with facebook accounts at least) the opportunity to vote which new FemShep concept they like the best. If I had an account I'd be voting for #1 myself. Mainly because I want to steal that hairstyle for me Infiltrator FemShep.

The others are all pretty interesting except #4 who looks WAY too much like a glamour model to be believable as a soldier.
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Old July 24 2011, 12:07 PM   #371
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Yeah I've already seen it. The black hair one is awesome.
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Old July 24 2011, 01:49 PM   #372
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Oh God this is so hard to pick just one!

I'm a sucker for short haircuts with women, so my first pick would #1.

Blond is awesome too, though.
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Old July 24 2011, 02:53 PM   #373
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Yeah, I'd say the blone one would be my second choice. Sort of Starbuck meets The Boss (from MGS3.) I have to say I'm surprised that one is leading the pack. Looking at the ME faces database, blonde Shepards (male or female) seem to be few and far between.

Of course whichever one wins, let's hope Bioware will put out a patch for the previous two games, adding that face to the presents....yeah I know, fat chance!
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Old July 24 2011, 02:55 PM   #374
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^ Oh don't worry, the community will pick up the slack and have a Youtube how-to guide for the editor up in no time
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Old July 24 2011, 04:43 PM   #375
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I actually like FemShep #3 the best, but I like FemShep #5 too, and I'm not surprised she's winning. I don't know why BioWare didn't have a high-quality default face for FemShep like they had for ManShep from the beginning, though.

SPCTRE, I think it's going to be impossible to recreate this face on the editor, just like it's impossible to recreate the Sheploo face.
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