RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 138,191
Posts: 5,345,477
Members: 24,603
Currently online: 753
Newest member: localyokel

TrekToday headlines

Klingon Beer Arrives In The US
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Star Trek: Prelude To Axanar
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Abrams Announces Star Wars: Force For Change Sweepstakes
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

New Funko Trek Figure
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

Saldana As A Role Model
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

San Diego Comic-Con Trek Fan Guide
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

Cumberbatch As Turing
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

Retro Review: In the Pale Moonlight
By: Michelle on Jul 19

Trek Beach Towel
By: T'Bonz on Jul 18

Two New Starships Collection Releases
By: T'Bonz on Jul 17


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Movies > Star Trek Movies I-X

Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

View Poll Results: Did Spock and Savvik have sex?
Yes, of course they did 105 64.81%
They very well might have done 38 23.46%
Don't know one way or the other 12 7.41%
Unlikely that they did 3 1.85%
No of course not 4 2.47%
Voters: 162. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 27 2010, 07:12 PM   #16
Cyke101
Rear Admiral
 
Cyke101's Avatar
 
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Shon T'Hara wrote: View Post
If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston.
What the... I mean, for Spock it was a matter of survival, and David Marcus is a hunk AND a Kirk, so I understand those two guys, but Peter frickin' Preston? That kid's a shrimp! (okay, so he was shot by ship-mounted phasers and still lived for a bit, but still)

The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
__________________
“You do not use science in order to prove yourself right, you use science in order to become right.”
Cyke101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 07:31 PM   #17
saturn5
Fleet Captain
 
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

T'Girl wrote: View Post
CaptainStoner wrote: View Post
I think Saavik simply helped him center his chi.
If you mean she helped him center his chi in her who~who, then yes, you are correct sir.
I can't remember the last time someone centred my chi
saturn5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 09:06 PM   #18
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Cyke101 wrote: View Post
The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
Saavik was helping him with his studies (mathematics, IIRC), and they'd become friends. I don't recall the novel suggesting they'd become more intimate than that.

The novel does have David and Saavik as sexual partners during ST II, which really complicates matters for the events unfolding in ST III. We learned in "Amok Time" that a Vulcan hitting pon farr for the first time must "mate or die".
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 09:23 PM   #19
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: In the 23rd Century...
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Therin of Andor wrote: View Post

We learned in "Amok Time" that a Vulcan hitting pon farr for the first time must "mate or die".
That really confuses the issue. Was Spock in Amok Time a late bloomer? Because he's in his mid-thirties. Spock in The Search for Spock looks like he's in his early-twenties when going through pon-farr

It's supposedly the same character... so why the change?
__________________
"I had no idea you were so... formidable. " - Anan 7 to James T. Kirk, A Taste of Armageddon
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 10:13 PM   #20
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

[QUOTE=BillJ;4557100]
Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
It's supposedly the same character... so why the change?
Original Spock had been taught the appropriate Vulcan mental disciplines and he temporarily suppressed his urges every seven years after puberty. He says in "Amok Time" that he thought he'd evaded the whole issue, but of course, he'd only delayed it.
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 10:17 PM   #21
Cyke101
Rear Admiral
 
Cyke101's Avatar
 
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
Cyke101 wrote: View Post
The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
Saavik was helping him with his studies (mathematics, IIRC), and they'd become friends. I don't recall the novel suggesting they'd become more intimate than that.
Oh, thanks for the clarification!
__________________
“You do not use science in order to prove yourself right, you use science in order to become right.”
Cyke101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 10:35 PM   #22
Capt_Pickirk
Fleet Captain
 
Capt_Pickirk's Avatar
 
Location: Sunny ol' Blighty
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

BillJ wrote: View Post
Shon T'Hara wrote: View Post
If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston.

Which actually raises an interesting possibility -- if Saavik was pregnant in IV, maybe it wasn't Spock's kid. Maybe Kirk has a quarter-Romulan grandchild.
So are STD's logical?
I guess they used a rubber glove.
Capt_Pickirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 27 2010, 11:02 PM   #23
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Capt_Pickirk wrote: View Post
I guess they used a rubber glove.
He has five penises. His condoms always fit him like a glove.
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 12:17 AM   #24
Capt_Pickirk
Fleet Captain
 
Capt_Pickirk's Avatar
 
Location: Sunny ol' Blighty
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
Capt_Pickirk wrote: View Post
I guess they used a rubber glove.
He has five penises. His condoms always fit him like a glove.
I meant that he'd put it on his hand when.... oh nevermind
Capt_Pickirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 01:06 AM   #25
Greg Cox
Vice Admiral
 
Location: Oxford, PA
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Don't forget, they got married later on. At least according to the novels.
__________________
www.gregcox-author.com
Greg Cox is online now   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 01:35 AM   #26
King Daniel Into Darkness
Admiral
 
King Daniel Into Darkness's Avatar
 
Location: England again
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Greg Cox wrote: View Post
Don't forget, they got married later on. At least according to the novels.
That was a horrible, horrible thing. Especially after reading The Pandora Principle, or the very similar DC comics' Saavik origin story.
__________________
Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3
King Daniel Into Darkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 02:01 AM   #27
Saquist
Commodore
 
Location: Starbase Houston
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

CaptainStoner wrote: View Post
I think the filmakers smartly left this open to interpretation, but playing it more on the safe side.

My interpretation is that they did not have sex. There just wasn't any real indication of that. I think Saavik simply helped him center his chi. (Is that what the kids are calling it these days?)
Wisely is right because that kid was a minor....and Robin Curtis...well...wasn't. I don't like those implications so...I'd rather believe his chi was focused (That's what she said)
Saquist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 02:35 AM   #28
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Shon T'Hara wrote: View Post
If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston..
Saavik didn't do it with Preston. He had a crush on her, but it never went anywhere - she didn't return it, although she did befriend him after Spock explained to her what a crush was.

Saavik and David were indeed having it off though.

And Spock looked to be at least 17 when he and Saavik were into it...
__________________
In labor news: Longshoremen walked off the piers today. Rescue operations are continuing.
Mr. Laser Beam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 28 2010, 03:16 AM   #29
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

KingDaniel wrote: View Post
That was a horrible, horrible thing. Especially after reading The Pandora Principle, or the very similar DC comics' Saavik origin story.
About 80 years after being teacher and pupil, and both without romantic partners in all that time in between, they decided it was... logical to become partners rather than remain alone.

I know some human teachers and students who impatiently waited about five years till they thought that society might accept their decision.
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 30 2010, 05:08 AM   #30
Elias Vaughn
Captain
 
Elias Vaughn's Avatar
 
Location: Dead. Or in the Celestial Temple. One of the two.
Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

BillJ wrote: View Post
So are STD's logical?
The VDs of the many outweigh the VDs of the few.
Elias Vaughn is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.