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Old January 13 2011, 06:39 AM   #76
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Re: Someone who enjoyed Star Trek XI

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Good thing the captain was there to state the obvious. Who was in charge of the bridge when he wasn't there and why could't they give a simple order like "Darken the window so we can see what's going on out there"?
Was anyone else even looking out the window? They were all fixated on their own consoles. So would they even notice the glare?
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Old January 13 2011, 07:16 AM   #77
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You read a book that's lying flat on the table in front of you and I'll shine a big, honking spotlight on your face. Let's see how fixated you stay.
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Old January 13 2011, 08:08 PM   #78
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I've always interpreted his "polarize the viewscreen" line as a fairly menial command. The screen was ALREADY filtering out mos of the UV and high intensity radiation from the nearby star, but the glare was still such that he couldn't clearly see the phenomenon without squinting.

It would basically be in the same vein as Kirk/Picard/Sisko ordering "Put it on screen... magnify." Robau wanted to see the black hole more clearly.
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Old January 13 2011, 09:36 PM   #79
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So the crew gets to squint into the glare until the captain gives such a menial command?
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Old January 14 2011, 01:23 AM   #80
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So the crew gets to squint into the glare until the captain gives such a menial command?
Yep. What do you think it is, a democracy?
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Old January 14 2011, 05:01 AM   #81
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Good thing he wasn't delayed. Who was in charge while he was off the bridge? Couldn't they give a menial order?
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Old January 14 2011, 05:40 AM   #82
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^ Assuming the bridge crew even cared about the glare. Their eyes should have been on their instruments, not on the viewscreen.
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Old January 14 2011, 07:38 AM   #83
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Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
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Old January 14 2011, 08:59 AM   #84
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I actually enjoyed the prequel/reboot. Most of all, I liked the fact that the writers went out of their way to explain all of the changes made when the timeline was altered(erased, reshaped, changed, etc.).

If J.J. Abrams and the writers had not thrown in the altered timeline/time travel angle into the mix of the story(i.e. the older version of Spock), then the film would have been a typical Hollywood remake, and would have seriously bombed at the box office(there by ending Star Trek indefinately).

The 2009 prequel/reboot could be best described as TOS version of 'Yesterday's Enterprise', but only better.

Maybe it can't erase memories of ENTERPRISE, but it can certainly erase memories of both DS9 and Voyager.
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Old January 14 2011, 09:18 AM   #85
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Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
It's a movie.
The 'polarize the view-screen' was there to show us - the audience - that this thing was more than just a large window.
It's simple, it worked, and it looked nice.
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Old January 14 2011, 09:26 AM   #86
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If J.J. Abrams and the writers had not thrown in the altered timeline/time travel angle into the mix of the story(i.e. the older version of Spock), then the film would have been a typical Hollywood remake, and would have seriously bombed at the box office(there by ending Star Trek indefinately).
I think you're seriously overestimating how much the general movie going audience cared about how or if the movie fit into previous continuity.

If that paragraph was sarcasm, then never mind.
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Old January 14 2011, 06:54 PM   #87
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Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
But the light from the viewscreen wasn't IN their eyes. They weren't even looking at it.

The viewscreen is basically for the captain (and us, the viewers ). The rest of the crew doesn't really need it.
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Old January 14 2011, 07:00 PM   #88
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Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
But the light from the viewscreen wasn't IN their eyes. They weren't even looking at it.

The viewscreen is basically for the captain (and us, the viewers ). The rest of the crew doesn't really need it.
But there is a problem with light reflecting off of the console screens. I understand the attempted dramatic effect of the shot, it just didn't come off very well. Unlike the shot of the female crewman being sucked out into space.
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Old January 14 2011, 08:17 PM   #89
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Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
But the light from the viewscreen wasn't IN their eyes. They weren't even looking at it.

The viewscreen is basically for the captain (and us, the viewers ). The rest of the crew doesn't really need it.
The helm and nav stations aren't facing the window? Who knew? I'll have to look at the bridge layouts of every Starfleet bridge we've ever seen. I can't believe I missed that.
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Old January 14 2011, 09:40 PM   #90
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kkozoriz1 wrote: View Post
Let be shine a bright light in your eyes and we'll see how well you can see your instruments.
But the light from the viewscreen wasn't IN their eyes. They weren't even looking at it.

The viewscreen is basically for the captain (and us, the viewers ). The rest of the crew doesn't really need it.
The helm and nav stations aren't facing the window? Who knew? I'll have to look at the bridge layouts of every Starfleet bridge we've ever seen. I can't believe I missed that.
So, without the view-screen the ship can't be steered?

The viewer is, has been and always will be eye-candy.
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