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Old January 6 2011, 10:11 PM   #61
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Once the shields fail, one decent shot from an enemy could shatter that glass and blow everyone out into space. At the climax of the film, the gravity well was cracking it, illustrating what a bad design move that was. It just compounds an already bad design choice.
You mean the glass that cracked at the same rate as the walls and ceiling?
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Old January 7 2011, 09:03 AM   #62
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Once the shields fail, one decent shot from an enemy could shatter that glass and blow everyone out into space. At the climax of the film, the gravity well was cracking it, illustrating what a bad design move that was. It just compounds an already bad design choice.
You mean the glass that cracked at the same rate as the walls and ceiling?
Exactly.
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Old January 7 2011, 08:41 PM   #63
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Anyway, just having cracks along the glass as they fought the gravity well is a pretty good indication that "glass unsafe." The glass would rupture a lot sooner than a hull or double hull.
You seem to forget that the actual WALLS cracked before the glass did, so that's sort of a moot point.

OTOH this was never a problem to begin with for the many thousands of windows on the hull of the Enterprise-D, including the big skylight on top of the bridge that likewise never ruptured or showed any signs of rupturing unless the entire rest of the ship was falling apart.
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Old January 7 2011, 09:15 PM   #64
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They should have made the whole bride dome transparent. That would have been a departure from the TOS look.
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Old January 12 2011, 12:19 AM   #65
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I fully enjoyed the new trek. Any deviation from the established norm is bound to get its critics but thankfully it does seem to be only a very small vocal minority who have been wound up to the point of no return.

Two of the main issues that appear to have stoked the fire of discontent seem to be the 're-imaging' of the trek universe and some of the cast.

Personally I feel the new ship, costumes etc walked the tightrope between staying true to the original and coming up with something fresh incredibly well. I also think Simon Pegg (a huge Trek fan himself) played a good Scotty. I can't think of anyone else I would have preferred to play the part.

I think it will help usher in a new generation of new Trek fans who were too young to appreciate previous films/TV series. Friends of mine who had previously looked at me like an oddball for enjoying Trek thoroughly enjoyed the film and I come in for a lot less stick.

Obviously if people take issue with the film then its well within their right to have their say but, as with anything in life, when taken to a fanatical level only arguments and confrontation can come of it.

On the topic of plot holes I can pick away with the best of them but simply choose not to when trying to enjoy a film.
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Old January 12 2011, 05:46 AM   #66
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As far as plotholes, it's already been pointed out that better films than this have had bigger problems, even in Star Trek. At the end of the day, though, you can't argue with success, and STXI has come out as one of the most successful Trek movies ever made.

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I think it will help usher in a new generation of new Trek fans who were too young to appreciate previous films/TV series.
I don't think youth has anything to do with it. My two-year-old son already comes racing through the house like a starving cheetah screaming "E'prise! E'prise!" at the top of his lungs whenever he hears the TNG theme song. And almost everyone I know under the age of 15 who saw STXI have at least made themselves aware of the older series if only to have something to compare the movie too; a surprising number of them have also become fans.
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Old January 12 2011, 09:04 AM   #67
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Forget about the shields. Just aim a visible light laser at the middle of the window and punch a hole right through the captain.
Lasers can't get through shields. Or the navigational deflector.
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Old January 12 2011, 02:43 PM   #68
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If the light of the star was so bright that they needed to polarize the window, a laser of the same frequency could also make it right to the heart of the bridge. All a laser is is light of a single frequency with it's waves in sync. If you're letting in light from outside, a laser of a specific frequency could also get in.
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Old January 12 2011, 02:53 PM   #69
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I'm sure the Star Trek windows have an automatic safety cutoff for harmful levels of whatever. Otherwise most of the E-D crew would have been blinded when Beverly flew them into a star in "Descent", or whenever a torpedo explodes outside.

It's an unseen bit of magic, just like the universal translator, which somehow synchs mouth movements, or the magic fields that prevent the ship and crew being crushed upon acceleration.
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Old January 12 2011, 08:55 PM   #70
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Even though the captain has to specifically call for the window to be polarized?
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Old January 12 2011, 11:24 PM   #71
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^First and foremost, that was for dramatic effect.

But they also needed to show viewers that there's a reason why everyone's eyes weren't being burned out as the Kelvin flew past that star.
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Old January 13 2011, 12:05 AM   #72
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It's a good thing he showed up when he did or the bridge crew would have been blind.
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Old January 13 2011, 12:24 AM   #73
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Admittedly they would have had trouble reading their consoles.
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Old January 13 2011, 02:57 AM   #74
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Good thing the captain was there to state the obvious. Who was in charge of the bridge when he wasn't there and why could't they give a simple order like "Darken the window so we can see what's going on out there"?
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Old January 13 2011, 05:02 AM   #75
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Forget about the shields. Just aim a visible light laser at the middle of the window and punch a hole right through the captain.
Of course, everyone knows that lasers can't penetrate transparent aluminum!
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