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View Poll Results: Rate Seize The Fire.
Outstanding 6 5.31%
Above Average 24 21.24%
Average 32 28.32%
Below Average 33 29.20%
Poor 18 15.93%
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Old November 9 2012, 08:26 PM   #211
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Re: TP: Seize the Fire by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!)

I enjoyed the Romulan War books - I just didn't like Seize The Fire...
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Old November 10 2012, 01:12 AM   #212
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I remember reading Seize The Fire when it first came out --- it was a clunker.

And then this past year I read Martin's new Titan novel --- sorry the name's escaping me --- and I remember that he made some mentions of events from this novel and it was like "what is he talking about", since the events didn't even jump out at me.

Suffice it to say, both of Martin's Titan novels are pretty forgettable.
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Old November 10 2012, 04:22 PM   #213
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That seems to be the general consensus, yes.

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Old November 15 2012, 12:14 AM   #214
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Given that Enterprise novels have passed to another author, will the same happen with Titan? Or will it go the way of Vanguard?
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Old November 15 2012, 03:04 AM   #215
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Given that Enterprise novels have passed to another author, will the same happen with Titan? Or will it go the way of Vanguard?
I am currently struggling through 'Fallen Gods'. So far I think it is an improvement over 'Seize the Fire', but I'm not exactly loving it.

I would very much like to read a Titan novel written solo by Andy Mangels. I would also be interested in reading moreTitan novels by James Swallow...'Synthesis' is probably my single favorite stand alone in that series.
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Old November 15 2012, 04:49 AM   #216
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I would be up for that, Synthesis was great.
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Old November 16 2012, 12:01 AM   #217
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I'm reading it now, so far I'm 70 % in and rather enjoying it. Interesting stuff about the Gorn, an under developed race imo.
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Old November 16 2012, 12:39 AM   #218
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I'm 100 pages in and I'm enjoying it too.
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Old November 16 2012, 07:45 PM   #219
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j3067 wrote: View Post
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Given that Enterprise novels have passed to another author, will the same happen with Titan? Or will it go the way of Vanguard?
I am currently struggling through 'Fallen Gods'. So far I think it is an improvement over 'Seize the Fire', but I'm not exactly loving it.

I would very much like to read a Titan novel written solo by Andy Mangels. I would also be interested in reading moreTitan novels by James Swallow...'Synthesis' is probably my single favorite stand alone in that series.

I re-read Syntesis a while back, and it really was amazing. The only other Titan-novel that jumped out for me like that was Orion's Hounds, I grade them equeally. I just finished a re-read of Cathedral, a joint novel between Martin and Mangels. It's so much better then Martin's solo work, that I can't help but think that Mangels was the true writer of that duo. I like the idea's Martin has, but he just can't seem to get them to paper properly.
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Old November 16 2012, 07:53 PM   #220
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^That was exactly what I said about Martin.
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Old November 17 2012, 01:19 AM   #221
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Martin books are tough to get through. I still have the conclusion to the Romulan War sitting in my to read pile along with Fallen Gods. At this point I'm thinking I'll never read them because other books by better authors keep pushing hem to the bottom of the pile. I kind of regret buying them now. Maybe some day i'll work up the desire to read them after I shave some more novels off my to read pile.
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Old November 17 2012, 05:18 AM   #222
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Given that Enterprise novels have passed to another author, will the same happen with Titan?
Star Trek: Titan has never been a single-author or single-team series the way the post-finale Star Trek: Enterprise novels were. They had two novels in a row by the same guy, but TTN is not "Martin's series" the way ENT became his after he and Andy Mangels split ways.
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Old November 17 2012, 10:31 AM   #223
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^^^ Perhaps not, but it certainly seemed as if Martin was setting up things in Fallen Gods that he intends to follow up on in future novels, such as the Andorian situation. Obviously that's no guarantee he will get to write those novels, but it seems as if he's hoping/guessing he will, or else he wouldn't have left such clear hooks to be picked up.

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Old November 17 2012, 11:41 PM   #224
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Not necessarily. The first part of the DS9 Relaunch (Avatar - Soul Key) was very arc heavy and it was written by multiple authors.
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Old November 18 2012, 08:06 AM   #225
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Not necessarily. The first part of the DS9 Relaunch (Avatar - Soul Key) was very arc heavy and it was written by multiple authors.
Indeed, it's entirely possible that the series editor wanted those arcs set up, not Martin. Who knows? But TTN is not a one-author series.
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