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Old June 17 2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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Star Trek Machinema Remake Idea

I'm not really sure exactly how to go about this, but it does seem like an interesting idea. I suppose I'd go about the idea the same way I did on the fanfic page -- basically the remake would start at TMP time with everything taking a diverging course after that.

It would of course have a different plot (I think the V'Ger thing was kind of weak -- though it was arguably interesting).

Any ideas, feedback, whatever?
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Old June 17 2011, 02:37 PM   #2
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how about scotty is possessed by a nazi space ghost and sets about murdering all the non-human crew.
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Old June 17 2011, 02:40 PM   #3
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Re: Star Trek Machinema Remake Idea

I've been doing something similar on Youtube, although this was because I wanted to tell a story using crossovers from as many different sci-fi genres as possible (the main ones in my first story being Alien and Babylon 5 with shades of Solaris). Rather than officially override Trek canon, I set the story 6 months+ after TMP and reintroduced Decker and Ilia by having them restored by V'ger somehow (this was the original intention in Phase II anyway).

If I can afford a PC with enough brainpower to run Star Trek Online I'd probably have a crack at desigining some less pyjama-like uniforms that reflect the progression towards the TWOK uniforms and look a bit less cheesy. So, keep the colour scheme of blue-grey, beige, yellow, dark brown, and white but modify the design somewhat. I don't know how easy or effective that would be to pull off.

It's pretty lame but it was fun to do. I find it a bit time-consuming producing the stories though.
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Old June 19 2011, 08:40 PM   #4
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Re: Star Trek Machinema Remake Idea

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how about scotty is possessed by a nazi space ghost and sets about murdering all the non-human crew.
I never liked the Star Trek plots that either involved episodes where they either went back in time to the 1930's, or ended up dealing with Nazi's.


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I've been doing something similar on Youtube, although this was because I wanted to tell a story using crossovers from as many different sci-fi genres as possible (the main ones in my first story being Alien and Babylon 5 with shades of Solaris). Rather than officially override Trek canon, I set the story 6 months+ after TMP and reintroduced Decker and Ilia by having them restored by V'ger somehow (this was the original intention in Phase II anyway).
Can I see your videos?
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Old June 19 2011, 10:15 PM   #5
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Just follow the link to Youtube. There are only 4 parts so far but the fifth and final part of the first story should be uploaded by the end of the week. It's pretty cheesy stuff.
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Old June 19 2011, 10:24 PM   #6
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Pauln6, I've added your work to Star Trek Reviewed under "other" as a video picture book. http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/246.html
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Old June 19 2011, 11:17 PM   #7
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Thanks! I was going to let you know once final part was finished but I'm hoping to get it done this week. Obviously, I mean I'm using the concept of TMP as a springboard for fresh stories similar to what CuttingEdge100 was suggesting rather than an identical method of delivery of the stories.
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Old June 20 2011, 12:40 AM   #8
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There are other fan video picture books out there, that's why I had a category for your work. Enterprise Season 5 is extensive (I have only a few of their episodes linked, they now have something like 20 of them).
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Old June 20 2011, 12:52 AM   #9
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WARNING WARNING BILL ROBINSON... ok, I hated that TV show... but the buzzers are going off and red lights are flashing all over the ship...

Enterprise Season 5 has been removed from You Tube because of objections from CBS. This is their home page, but they appear to have had to take down their extensive video picture book work! http://enterprises5.yolasite.com/
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Old June 20 2011, 02:05 AM   #10
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What game engines are suitable for creating a realistic Star Trek based machinema?
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Old June 20 2011, 10:00 AM   #11
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I think if you register on the radar too much you might be shut down - but it's understandable I suppose, especially if you are using images of real actors. My story is very obscure but contains so much material from different genres, any one of them could pull the plug - lol.

I lack the technical skill to be of assistance. However, Star Trek Online seems quite versatile with a reasonable mix of uniforms, ships, and aliens available but limited to humanoids. They also have the Foundry server where you can design your own adventures, which would seem to be a requirement? However, you have to pay for the monthly subscription.
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Old June 21 2011, 02:54 AM   #12
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Everybody

What ideas do you guys have for plots, I'm not sure it's good to just use mine...


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I think if you register on the radar too much you might be shut down - but it's understandable I suppose, especially if you are using images of real actors.
Always a possibility. For the record, I have no intention to make money off of this. It's just an idea of mine which I think could be entertaining.
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Old June 21 2011, 03:16 AM   #13
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Everybody

What ideas do you guys have for plots, I'm not sure it's good to just use mine...

The plots should reflect your vision for the series.
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Old June 21 2011, 08:51 AM   #14
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Well, I uploaded part 5 of my story, which is the final part.

There are pros and cons to the various approaches you can take. If you are planning on using established characters then you need to try and get those characters clear in your head and decide how you want to use them. I find it helps to imagine the actors delivering the lines in my head to try and make the dialogue sound like the character but whether other people are getting the right vibe is entirely personal to them.

If you ask for ideas from others, are you just going to script their plot ideas or ask for full scripts with dialogue intact - it might be tougher to realise somebody else's vision.

My basic premise was that I wanted to explore the interactions in a Trek world featuring the key, interesting races from other sci fi genres.

I'm not a huge fan of the overly sterile form of Trek so I wanted to make the world of the Federation a little bit murkier, building on concepts from the novel Traitor Winds, Star Trek VI, and Babylon 5.

I wanted to go for a more a diverse crew so I picked Star Trek the Motion Picture, which featured many different species and an awesome series of Enterprise sets.

I also wanted to go for more of an ensemble vibe because I'm not a fan of placing full focus on Kirk, Spock, and McCoy where other characters feel more appropriate (once again, this vibe came from Traitor Winds). Although she was relegated to cameos in TOS, I have always been a fan of Yeoman Rand and I was surprised at how easy it was to flesh out her character using elements gleaned from the show. I was also pleasantly surprised at how people enjoyed her little jaunt with Berruzha (channelling just a tiny bit of Sigourney Weaver but I stopped short of a scene in her pants).

My mistake (apart from being cheesy) was starting with only a vague plot and then building the story around that because I allowed the proliferation of too many characters. I found that it wasn't possible for different characters to know key plot points that the audience know, which necessitates repetition. I also underestimated how much technobabble can bog you down in comic book format where dialogue should be fairly light.

I think you should start with your own plot ideas, see how much you enjoy writing and producing the stories, and then go with the flow.
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Old June 21 2011, 01:09 PM   #15
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And I've added Part 5 to my listing of your listing! http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/246.html
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