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Old April 28 2011, 08:32 PM   #1126
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Re: Design the Next Enterprise

Hmm, yeah, I should probably try to find the time to watch the series one of these days. Just as soon as I find the time to watch the entire Space Battleship Yamato series. I started watching the series on YouTube a while ago, but haven't found the time to resume watching the series.

Maybe the fact that they haven't announced anything is a blessing in disguise. No sense in letting the time go the waste; minus well take the time to refine your designs, and improve on elements that need them, and maybe get rid of elements that aren't the best choices.
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Old April 28 2011, 09:25 PM   #1127
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STO wiki says the winner will be announced "late May" -> http://www.stowiki.org/Upcoming_cont...rmined_Release

Maybe they know something we don't, but I wouldn't count on it...
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Old April 28 2011, 09:32 PM   #1128
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"Late May", huh? So...at least another month of waiting, with no guarantee that we'll actually have an answer by "late May."

Wonderful.


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Old April 28 2011, 09:34 PM   #1129
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Fuzzy Modem wrote: View Post
STO wiki says the winner will be announced "late May" -> http://www.stowiki.org/Upcoming_cont...rmined_Release

Maybe they know something we don't, but I wouldn't count on it...
Note how they didn't mention the year (it's in the "unknown" section).
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Old April 28 2011, 09:55 PM   #1130
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At this point "late may" is a little over 2 weeks away.
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Old April 28 2011, 09:55 PM   #1131
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At this point "late may" is a little over 2 weeks away.
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Old April 28 2011, 11:19 PM   #1132
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I'm a bit wary of the phrase that appears immediately after the date, unknown if this will be a playable ship or not. By putting this note under the heading "Unknown" as well, the implication here to me is that the publishers want to declare this contest over, declare a winner, hand out the prizes, and disconnect from the idea of integrating the ship into the game as Enterprise-F.

That's sad, but if you think about it, not unexpected.

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Old April 28 2011, 11:34 PM   #1133
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I'm a bit wary of the phrase that appears immediately after the date, unknown if this will be a playable ship or not. By putting this note under the heading "Unknown" as well, the implication here to me is that the publishers want to declare this contest over, declare a winner, hand out the prizes, and disconnect from the idea of integrating the ship into the game as Enterprise-F.

That's sad, but if you think about it, not unexpected.

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At this point I would not be suprised. I just would like to see some of the top ships imported into the game. God knows most of our designs are way better than some of the playable ships they have now.
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Old April 29 2011, 12:16 AM   #1134
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At this point I would not be suprised. I just would like to see some of the top ships imported into the game. God knows most of our designs are way better than some of the playable ships they have now.
Isn't one basically a Sovereign with a rollbar between the nacelles? Or is that actually an STO Sovereign?
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Old April 29 2011, 01:11 AM   #1135
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At this point I would not be suprised. I just would like to see some of the top ships imported into the game. God knows most of our designs are way better than some of the playable ships they have now.
Isn't one basically a Sovereign with a rollbar between the nacelles? Or is that actually an STO Sovereign?

That one was designed way before the STO guys ships were designed. I totally get the dig on the Luna...lol at least I can say that one on my designs has made it somewhere. I know that there are alot of people out there that don't like my designs, but it is cool to see one of my creations living on in one form.


I am not saying that all of there ships are bad. They are using slot of the pre existing designs that are really cool.
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Old April 29 2011, 01:17 AM   #1136
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At this point I would not be suprised. I just would like to see some of the top ships imported into the game. God knows most of our designs are way better than some of the playable ships they have now.
Isn't one basically a Sovereign with a rollbar between the nacelles? Or is that actually an STO Sovereign?

That one was designed way before the STO guys ships were designed. I totally get the dig on the Luna...lol at least I can say that one on my designs has made it somewhere. I know that there are alot of people out there that don't like my designs, but it is cool to see one of my creations living on in one form.
Where did that come from?
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Old April 29 2011, 01:21 AM   #1137
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Yup.


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Old April 29 2011, 01:23 AM   #1138
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I don't think it's possible for any new ship design to satisfy more than 75% of the fans. The individual aesthetic preferences and preconceived notions we developed in childhood have now 'set' and any new material will invariably be compared to this nostalgic idealism and found lacking to some extent.

The key to broad acceptance is to tap into the most universally loved design aspects and allow them to influence us without taking the reigns, but even then you can only hope to appeal to the majority. There will always be those who prefer design aspects that the rest of us never liked to begin with.

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Even the Enterprise D (which really represents the peak of Trek TV) is not universally loved, and is even downright hated by no small number of fans, though she happens to be my personal favorite.

Point being Sean, there will always be those who dislike your designs. Don't let it jade you. You are the only one here (anywhere really) who has made a real contribution to the universe. That's no small feat, and is in no way diminished by the jeers of the minority.

Whoever wins this contest, they'll be subject to a great deal of hostility and contempt, and those who complain will likely do so at a much greater volume than those who applaud. That's just the internet.

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Old April 29 2011, 01:34 AM   #1139
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I don't think it's possible for any new ship design to satisfy more than 75% of the fans. The individual aesthetic preferences and preconceived notions we developed in childhood have now 'set' and any new material will invariably be compared to this nostalgic idealism and found lacking to some extent.

The trick is to tap into the most universally loved aspects of our shared Trek culture and allow them to influence us without taking the reigns, but even then you can only hope to appeal to the majority. There will always be those who prefer design aspects that the rest of us never liked to begin with.
I totally see your point Fuzzy. I sure got my share of "love and hate" with my Luna class design. I take it all in stride.


That is why I said I would to see the top designs from this contest in the game. They pulled more from what you said Fuzzy.

I personally would love to see Vektors or Fuzzy's Designs in a fleet along side the Luna, Sovie, Galaxy, or Intrepid classes. I would even love to see my Ent-F design flying among them as well. With every good design there are some bad designs and STO does have a few bad ones thrown in with the bunch.

I guess that is what happens with modular design you can make great looking designs and then you can get some ugly looking turds as well.
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Old April 29 2011, 01:36 AM   #1140
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Where did that come from?
I may have been wrong, but I took it as a poke at the my Luna Class that is already apart of the ships available. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.
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