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Old March 31 2011, 03:39 PM   #211
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Re: Aronofsky's Wolverine film title announced (3/17/11--Aronofsky qui

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No, I think Aronofsky still believes in cinema as artistry and not something to be used to market action figures.
And as we all know, if it comes from a comic book it can't be a work of art....
I have no idea how that even relates to what I said.
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Old March 31 2011, 03:42 PM   #212
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Re: Aronofsky's Wolverine film title announced (3/17/11--Aronofsky qui

I'm thinking that Kestrel was meaning that comic books are and should be considered a form of art rather than being dismissed as nothing more than kiddie books as they're mostly thought of...but that's just how I took the comment.
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Old March 31 2011, 03:46 PM   #213
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I'm thinking that Kestrel was meaning that comic books are and should be considered a form of art rather than being dismissed as nothing more than kiddie books as they're mostly thought of...but that's just how I took the comment.
I got that but that still doesn't relate to what I said.
My comment was the difference in how a director like Aronofsky views cinema vs. how a studio like FOX views it.
It has nothing to do with the source material of the film.


Besides, could I be a comic book fan, be a member of a site like this if I didn't understand that comics are a form of art?
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Old March 31 2011, 03:49 PM   #214
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Re: Aronofsky's Wolverine film title announced (3/17/11--Aronofsky qui

Everything that I've read and seen in this thread indicates Aronofsky was treating this film as a serious work of art - and moreover that Fox was giving him the latitude to do this. So I'm not sure how else I could've taken what you said?

ETA: Fair point!
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Old March 31 2011, 03:57 PM   #215
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Everything that I've read and seen in this thread indicates Aronofsky was treating this film as a serious work of art - and moreover that Fox was giving him the latitude to do this. So I'm not sure how else I could've taken what you said?

ETA: Fair point!
That Aronofsky doesn't want his film to be used as a marketing gimmick for toys, just as I meant it.

So he'd rather preserve his intregity and decline the work rather than see his work plastered on a lunchbox.

You really didn't get that from what I said?

Look at the huge mistake with "Dark Knight".
Nolan made a great artistic film w/ Batman.
The worst marketing idea was making mass market toys for a film like that.
Nolan didn't make a film to sell toys, niether is Aronofsky but FOX does.
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Old March 31 2011, 06:06 PM   #216
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Re: Aronofsky's Wolverine film title announced (3/17/11--Aronofsky qui

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Honestly, I'm still not completely sold on Matt Reeves. As much as I love the Bad Robot camp, It's a bit hard to judge anything off of Cloverfield and Let Me In was damn near a shot for shot remake of Let the Right One In, however this could be the narrative to deliver something special, who knows.
Let Me In, despite the inherent similarities to Let The Right One In, was a far superior film. It really proved that Matt Reeves is a versatile filmmaker.
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Old March 31 2011, 06:09 PM   #217
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mmmm yeah I disagree I enjoyed the original more. I did like Hit Girl's performance though. Her names escaping me at the moment. Chloe something.
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Old March 31 2011, 06:31 PM   #218
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Old March 31 2011, 06:32 PM   #219
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Right, that's it, thanks mate.
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Old March 31 2011, 06:36 PM   #220
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^YVW dude.
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Old March 31 2011, 07:10 PM   #221
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That Aronofsky doesn't want his film to be used as a marketing gimmick for toys, just as I meant it.

So he'd rather preserve his intregity and decline the work rather than see his work plastered on a lunchbox.

You really didn't get that from what I said?
Maybe I just misread? Or more likely we disagree on what "preserving his integrity means."

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Look at the huge mistake with "Dark Knight".
Nolan made a great artistic film w/ Batman.
The worst marketing idea was making mass market toys for a film like that.
Nolan didn't make a film to sell toys, niether is Aronofsky but FOX does.
I'm not sure that I see how it was a huge mistake or in any way reflective on Nolan's film. I mean, if it didn't actually interfere with his creative process or the story he's telling, what's it matter?
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Old March 31 2011, 08:52 PM   #222
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^ Yeah, it's not like TDK had scenes like in Batman and Robin where the cast took time out of going to defeat the bad guy and changed costume, just so they could be seen in an extra costume for the action figures ...
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Old March 31 2011, 09:00 PM   #223
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I'm sure if Bale's Batsuit couldn't handle the arctic conditions by Mr. Freeze, he'd go back too. Although, he would have probably planned ahead.
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Old March 31 2011, 09:06 PM   #224
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^ Yeah, it's not like TDK had scenes like in Batman and Robin where the cast took time out of going to defeat the bad guy and changed costume, just so they could be seen in an extra costume for the action figures ...
Like the up graded armor to handle dog bites or the up graded sonar suit.
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Old March 31 2011, 09:09 PM   #225
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^ But all of that fitted into the narrative. The character didn't have to go and do anything dumb - like delaying taking on the baddie when time was of the essence - just so we could see his slinky new duds.
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