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View Poll Results: Grade The Greater Good
10 Chevrons – Out of this Universe 25 42.37%
9 Chevrons – Beyond the known Galaxies 18 30.51%
8 Chevrons – In the Milky Way Galaxy 12 20.34%
7 Chevrons – Within our Solar System 2 3.39%
6 Chevrons – Can’t get past Earth (Average) 1 1.69%
5 Chevrons – No flying machines at all 1 1.69%
4 Chevrons – Pre-Industrial 0 0%
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2 Chevrons – Throwing rocks and stones here 0 0%
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Old November 10 2010, 02:23 PM   #136
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Re: SG-U – The Greater Good - (2x07) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Best episode of season two so far, probably in the top two or three episodes of the show overall.

When there is meaningful developments that are not imaginary or visions or whatever SGU can be pretty good.

Now...can they sustain the show at this level or better is the question? Or are we going to see the return of Earth/stone episodes and pop song montages?
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Old November 10 2010, 02:35 PM   #137
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Here is an excerpt from the script about the Mission, spoilers obviously but if you are reading this thread it shouldn't be an issue.

Rush- ...About it's mission. it's far more important than we ever thought.

Young- Well ok let's hear it.

Rush- Are you familiar with the cosmic microwave background radiation?

Young- Noise left over from the big bang.

Rush- A long time ago, the Ancients made a discovery. they found evidence of a
structure. Buried deep within the background radiation. They believed at one time this structure had genuine complexity. coherence. Therefore could not have occurred naturally.

Young- How is that even possible?

Rush- it's not. at least not according to our current understanding of physics. Nor can we even see this structure with our technology.

Young- OK so what are we talking about? some kind of code? a message?

Rush- A message perhaps. Or a sign of intelligence. From the beginning of time.

Young- Sent by..?

Rush- Well that's the very question they sought to answer when they launched Destiny. That is the mission. We're talking about a mystery rooted in the foundation of reality. A puzzle. with pieces scattered across the length and breadth of the universe itself.


....

Rush- Once I'd broken the code I had access to the ships complete archive. There are thousands of pages devoted to this. Scientific research, philosophical debate.


....


Rush- We're talking about a level of order present at the very beginning of space-time that goes beyond anything we've ever conceived. I believe that the more we learn, the more pieces Destiny uncovers, then the greater our power to control everything around us will be.

...

Rush- Yes Colonel, it is about power. To control our fate. right our wrongs....To gain greater understanding.
That''s the big hooplah. The Universe has a creator?
The Destiny is like millions of years old. They discovered Ascending ...is this sort of ...old news for ascended beings?

No wonder Destiny was abandoned.
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Old November 10 2010, 02:36 PM   #138
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This may be one of the best episodes of Stargate ever made. Compelling drama not just for the sake of plot, a BIG reveal, character development, stunning visual effects, and finally ELI GETS THE GIRL.

All that said, if T-Bag kills Ginn and they pull a Wesley-Fred I will not watch the show again. Eli has been through enough.
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Old November 10 2010, 02:45 PM   #139
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Just saw the preview for next week. They better figure out some way to get Ginn's mind back in that dead body. Now.
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Old November 10 2010, 03:06 PM   #140
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Re: SG-U – The Greater Good - (2x07) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

I wonder if Ginn was really used to push the Eli/Chloe relationship to a new level. He's not going to be seen as the little lapdog anymore.


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Best episode of season two so far, probably in the top two or three episodes of the show overall.

When there is meaningful developments that are not imaginary or visions or whatever SGU can be pretty good.

Now...can they sustain the show at this level or better is the question? Or are we going to see the return of Earth/stone episodes and pop song montages?
I think that's the rub and it's not the first show that has had the potential to skyrocket, whether they can do it or not is definitely a question (and as to whether Syfy will give them the time to do it even if the creators would).
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Old November 10 2010, 03:12 PM   #141
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Just saw it. By and far one of the best episodes of SGU yet. If this show gets canned now, im gonna be pissed.
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Old November 10 2010, 03:14 PM   #142
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I wonder if Ginn was really used to push the Eli/Chloe relationship to a new level. He's not going to be seen as the little lapdog anymore.

Chloe needs to go. She serves no purpose on this show despite the writers attempting to make her some super computing alien proxy.

Should've killed Chloe instead of Ginn. Man this makes me angry.

So, are both women dead? Or did Amanda's mind slip back to her body? And when Perry collapsed on Earth why in the world would someone not have dialed up Destiny to ask what was up?
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Old November 10 2010, 03:28 PM   #143
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I just thought of a missed opportunity, how awesome would it have been if Ginn had opened the door wearing the "You Are Here" shirt?
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Old November 10 2010, 03:49 PM   #144
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I wonder if Ginn was really used to push the Eli/Chloe relationship to a new level. He's not going to be seen as the little lapdog anymore.

Chloe needs to go. She serves no purpose on this show despite the writers attempting to make her some super computing alien proxy.

Should've killed Chloe instead of Ginn. Man this makes me angry.

So, are both women dead? Or did Amanda's mind slip back to her body? And when Perry collapsed on Earth why in the world would someone not have dialed up Destiny to ask what was up?
I agree that they should kill off Chloe instead of Ginn, but there's nothing we can do about it. And yes, both women are dead unless the SGC has a sarcophagus or something and that might not even work.
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Old November 10 2010, 04:11 PM   #145
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I wonder if Ginn was really used to push the Eli/Chloe relationship to a new level. He's not going to be seen as the little lapdog anymore.

Chloe needs to go. She serves no purpose on this show despite the writers attempting to make her some super computing alien proxy.

Should've killed Chloe instead of Ginn. Man this makes me angry.

So, are both women dead? Or did Amanda's mind slip back to her body? And when Perry collapsed on Earth why in the world would someone not have dialed up Destiny to ask what was up?
I agree that they should kill off Chloe instead of Ginn, but there's nothing we can do about it. And yes, both women are dead unless the SGC has a sarcophagus or something and that might not even work.
I'd be amazed if they straight out telegraphed Ginn actually being dead in the trailer. Maybe there's an out.

As for the sarcophagus...that's in the "Let's pretend this never happened" file in the Stargate franchise. Could have been used many, many times (Dr. Fraser, etc) and never was.
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Old November 10 2010, 05:09 PM   #146
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Re: SG-U – The Greater Good - (2x07) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

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Chloe needs to go. She serves no purpose on this show despite the writers attempting to make her some super computing alien proxy.

Should've killed Chloe instead of Ginn. Man this makes me angry.

So, are both women dead? Or did Amanda's mind slip back to her body? And when Perry collapsed on Earth why in the world would someone not have dialed up Destiny to ask what was up?
I agree that they should kill off Chloe instead of Ginn, but there's nothing we can do about it. And yes, both women are dead unless the SGC has a sarcophagus or something and that might not even work.
I'd be amazed if they straight out telegraphed Ginn actually being dead in the trailer. Maybe there's an out.

As for the sarcophagus...that's in the "Let's pretend this never happened" file in the Stargate franchise. Could have been used many, many times (Dr. Fraser, etc) and never was.
They actually used the line "Ginn is dead" or some variation of it in the preview.

As for SG-1, they never really had access to a sarcophagus aside from one or two incidents. Sure they had the Telchak healing thing, but that turned dead people into zombies, so they weren't ever going to use it.
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Old November 10 2010, 05:17 PM   #147
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I agree....best by far, so far. Keep it up guys!
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Old November 10 2010, 05:45 PM   #148
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Where was Simion's military escort?? I wonder if he is dead to.
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Old November 10 2010, 06:05 PM   #149
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I gave it a 9. Destiny's mission seems fascinating. Seems like something that'll turn into a real game changer for the world of Stargate. If they ever figure out what the ancients failed to, they could redefine a lot of things with this new found knowlege and power. And for the first time, the title "Stargate Universe" makes a bit of sense. I've been wondering about the title on and off since the show began.

Felt like all this should have come out halfway through season 1.

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Was Eli a virgin, is this girl his first?
I was wondering the same thing for a while now. It would have been nice if they dealt with it, but I guess they decided to go the "it's private" route. And either way, I wanted to share in Eli's excitement at banging a hot alien girl.

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He and Brody make a nice 'scientific' contrast to Rush, whose ego at times eclipses his brilliance. The other two are a lot more human in many respects.
I like them too. They're growing on me. Good supporting civilian characters. Normal folks about the ship.

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Dr. Perry! She's awesome too.
And she looked great in Ginn's outfit. Looked like they even put McNiven's hair coloring on Kathleen Munroe. Or maybe it's just a coincidence that the two actresses have similar coloring. Also, I wonder... Does the production have to keep several versions of the same clothes on-hand for certain stone swap sequences when the actors aren't the same size?

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Back to confrontational black guy!
Greer to the rescue. I loved that part.

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Why does no one ever go looking for Rush?
Because they don't want to trigger a crazy attack or stumble upon him masturbating or something while he's working in his crazy hall.


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Why does no one ever go looking for Rush?


Yeah, that's currently the biggest plot-hole, IMO. I mean Young doesn't trust him any further than he could throw him out an airlock, so you'd think he'd make a point of learning where he goes.

I sure as hell would.
He'd probably know he was being followed. He could also get away using a turbo lift or whatever. Do they even call them turbo lifts? I don't remember.

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Skyline is either going to be really good or really bad
It's a rental. Barely.

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Rush better not bang Eli's woman.

I'd pay good money to see Eli punch out Rush.
That was a good scene too. Eli walking in on Rush making out with his new girlfriend.

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Oh shit, T-Bag is gonna shank Perry.
That's what it looked like. I feel gutted just thinking about it. No pun intended. I'll comment more next week.

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If Destiny's role is to travel the universe and map the structure of the cosmic background radiation, why the trouble with a fleet of seed ships and stargates on every decent planet along the way? What importance do the individual planets have?
I was thinking about that too. What part do the gates play in this?

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Didn't they learn from anything Troi? Don't let the woman fly the ship!
I was thinking that's what you get when you let the quadriplegic drive.
Nice touch the way they had her struggling with the pen.

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I agree....best by far, so far. Keep it up guys!
I'm surprised people liked it so much. It still had the Rush/Young kerfuffle and a lot of exposition.
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I just thought of a missed opportunity, how awesome would it have been if Ginn had opened the door wearing the "You Are Here" shirt?
lol that would have been great.
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