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Old March 23 2011, 01:17 AM   #76
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God Emperor would be pretty tough to put to screen would be my guess why it never happened. It's a really slow, talky book. Not like the other ones aren't, but they have a lot more going on action-wise than GE does. I'd love to watch it, but I'm just not sure today's ADD audiences would be able to handle it.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:03 AM   #77
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It is still kind of odd that Sci-Fi abandoned the Dune franchise. After all, the two minis scored them their highest ratings at the time. I think only the BSG mini has since done better. There was potential for them to continue on.

Or perhaps we should be thankful that for once, someone quit while they were ahead?
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Old March 23 2011, 02:16 AM   #78
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Or perhaps we should be thnkful that for once, someone quit while they were ahead?
I'll go with this.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:21 AM   #79
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God Emperor would be pretty tough to put to screen would be my guess why it never happened. It's a really slow, talky book. Not like the other ones aren't, but they have a lot more going on action-wise than GE does. I'd love to watch it, but I'm just not sure today's ADD audiences would be able to handle it.
See, I think it could work as a TV series if you restructure it a bit. But you would need time for the whole thing to play out. Not to mention, thousands of years passed between books, and Leto was there for all of it, so there is a lot of backstory they could mine if they really wanted to.

You're right, as written, God Emperor is very talky and philosophical and there's hardly any action until the end. I think it would have to happen on a network like HBO or something, where you could really exploit the concept and have a slow burn.

I'd like to see a less conventional adaptation of it, giving us plenty of Leto and the machinations with Siona and Hwi, but also filling in background about how Leto's pursuit of the "Golden Path" developed over the millennia. Lots of untapped potential there and if the series unfolded in a more non-linear fashion it could be something really unique.

I think God Emperor was easily the most experimental and genre-defying of the Dune books and it's a shame how much it gets overlooked.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:26 AM   #80
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I know a lot of people that name God Emperor of Dune as their favorite Dune book. It's my second favorite book of all time behind Dune. It's probably the "deepest" science fiction novel I've ever read. Frank Herbert must have been on all sorts of acid trips when he wrote GEoD. I think my brain expanded.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:32 AM   #81
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I know a lot of people that name God Emperor of Dune as their favorite Dune book. It's my second favorite book of all time behind Dune. It's probably the "deepest" science fiction novel I've ever read. Frank Herbert must have been on all sorts of acid trips when he wrote GEoD. I think my brain expanded.
Well, come on. "The spice expands consciousness." Surely not a drug reference of any kind.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:38 AM   #82
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I read that John Harrison started a script for "God Emperor of Dune" but Sci-Fi pulled the plug when he was a third through it citing budget reasons. I will agree that a "God Emperor of Dune" project would be difficult to adaption. The sheer scope and size of it combined with the philosophical discussion it touches upon would be hard to recreate and have an audience understand without losing the audience. Much of the book is Leto's reflections on his experiences and the human condition in general. I don't think you could get rid of any of it either because it's critical to the book's charm and point. It is just my favorite of the series and I would love to see it be brought to either the small or big screens one day.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:39 AM   #83
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I think it's too dense to even be a miniseries. But if it was made into a TV show I fear it would be canceled before the end of a single season. Just too out there for most people.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:40 AM   #84
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It's 99% Duncan (a ghola), Siona, and Leto II (a giant worm/human) talking.... kind of like an expensive Being Human.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:44 AM   #85
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Yeah, that's exactly the problem - modern audiences wouldn't give it a chance to develop. I like the idea you mentioned, Robert Maxwell, in your post about the non-linear background filler script as a mini-series... That could make it a lot more filmable and maybe even touch on the philosophical aspects of the book in a much more film-friendly way. It'd be a tough one to figure out and make watchable for sure.
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Old March 23 2011, 02:47 AM   #86
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A friend and I attempted to adapt the book and we got through a hundred pages of it before we decided to stop. It was just too hard and complex to decide what to keep and what to dump.

Incidentally there hasn't been any news on the "Dune" movie in a while. The most recent draft was completed a few months ago I think. Forgot the guy's name who was writing it. Josh Zetumer's treatment was just horrid as I think I've mentioned before. He wanted to combine the characters of Gurney and Duncan! Showing a clear misunderstanding of the importance of both these characters, particularly Duncan.
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Old March 23 2011, 03:08 AM   #87
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We're going to miss having another adaptation of Dune?

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Old March 23 2011, 04:23 AM   #88
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I know a lot of people that name God Emperor of Dune as their favorite Dune book. It's my second favorite book of all time behind Dune. It's probably the "deepest" science fiction novel I've ever read. Frank Herbert must have been on all sorts of acid trips when he wrote GEoD. I think my brain expanded.
I hated God Emperor. It took me 15 years to read that book, but I was determined to finish it. And I can't really say I was glad I did. For me, God Emperor marked a turning point for Dune. I just wasn't that interested in what came afterward. However, I did like some of the prequel books written by Brian Herbert, but I had no interest in finishing Heretics or starting Chapterhouse.

Turning God Emperor into a movie would be pretty tough, however, not impossible. IMO, they would have to beef up Siona's role more, show Leto being tyrannical in addition to be philosophical, and throw some more assassination attempts or other stuff to pump up the action. Maybe even bring in the Honored Matres.
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Old March 23 2011, 04:25 AM   #89
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Wow, that's the first time I've heard someone admit to liking the prequel novels...
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Some of the prequel books were fine. Like the House books despite the continuity glitches that Pinky and the Brain explained away. The Butlerian Jihad was the worst. The recent books "Paul of Dune" and it's sequel were great. I was really looking forward to "Leto of Dune" which would have finally depicted the events of the God Emperor's reign.
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