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Old November 6 2010, 04:05 PM   #31
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Re: mythology storyline of upcoming episodes

Ya know, I was never impressed enough with the series' premise or the advertising to tune in to watch. The only reason I paid any attention at all was J.J. Abrams name being attached to the project. But it seems like Abrams may be spreading himself too thin. He's had his name attached to a number of TV projects in the last couple of years that have gone nowhere ("Six Degrees", "What About Brian" and now "Undercovers"). When he's heavily involved with a project it seems to do well, but some of the other projects with his name attached to it aren't exactly the best.
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Old November 6 2010, 07:22 PM   #32
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plans are to air the next three episodes and then leave the final three in the can with the possibility they may run at some unknown point in the future, according to The Hollywood Reporter.com...

"And we find out in episode 12 or 13, I can't remember which, the real reason that Steven and Samantha were actually brought back to the CIA.
And we'll miss a cool guest stint by Dollhouse's Harry Lennix, who plays Steven's brother in an episode where the team heads to a Croatian casino to deal with counterfeiting. "We get to meet Steven's brother ... who we haven't really heard about. He's also an agent, and they get to be in the field together,
Undercovers canceled (and wait'll you hear what we may never see)
http://blastr.com/2010/11/nbcs-cancels-undercovers.php
So the writers intentionally held off on giving us anything remotely interesting in favor of cardboard cutouts with zero backstory playing spy and expected their audience to wait until 13 episodes in for a big twist? Yeah, that was BRILLIANT.
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Old November 6 2010, 09:34 PM   #33
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I just hope it won't take another ten years for a network drama to prominently feature to black actors in the leading roles. Still, being a complete cynic, I expect the worst.
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Old November 7 2010, 03:48 AM   #34
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It's still a mystery where the spy show stuff came from. There wasn't any successful example on the air when it all broke upon us. Cover Affairs has since been proven successful, but what spawned it?
Burn Notice, probably.
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Old November 7 2010, 02:19 PM   #35
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^ Burn Notice, definitely!
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Old November 7 2010, 02:32 PM   #36
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Meh. I only watched the premiere episode and never went back. I hated it.
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Old November 7 2010, 08:46 PM   #37
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Old November 7 2010, 10:36 PM   #38
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I won't much miss the show; it was mediocre and not very engaging, and the characters of Hoyt and Leo were both intensely annoying. However, I am utterly enthralled by Gugu Mbatha-Raw, who's the most gorgeous woman in my TV viewing lineup this season -- and the show does an excellent job of showcasing her, visually and otherwise.
Absolutely agree.

But the show just didn't have that snap - the linear storytelling, it just didn't make for compelling T.V. The show depended too much on the "mission" story to carry it and the mission was never that great a story. The emphasis should have been on the relationship between Smantha and Steven, and it was just blah.

My sister suggested that the show should have begun with us finding out not until the end of the episode, that the Blooms were separated or maybe even divorced - but still with strong feelings for each other. It was like the producers (and maybe the network) were afraid to take any chances with the premise. I continue to think that NBC was hunting for another version of the Cosbys, the Blooms' relationship sort of reminded me of Cliff and Claire - if they'd secretly been spys.

Nice try, though. Hope to see Gugu another American show soon. I'd give it a try just to see her.
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Old November 7 2010, 11:01 PM   #39
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^And they should let her use her own accent this time.
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Old November 7 2010, 11:58 PM   #40
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I won't much miss the show; it was mediocre and not very engaging, and the characters of Hoyt and Leo were both intensely annoying. However, I am utterly enthralled by Gugu Mbatha-Raw, who's the most gorgeous woman in my TV viewing lineup this season -- and the show does an excellent job of showcasing her, visually and otherwise. So I'll miss seeing her (though hopefully she'll get a gig on a better show soon). And the actress playing her sister is pretty hot too.

Also I liked Gerald McRaney here. This show has convinced me that he should play J. Jonah Jameson in the new Spider-Man movies.

The main thing I'm afraid of is that networks will see this show's failure as "proof" that hourlong dramas with African-American (or Afro-British) leads can't succeed, and it'll be another decade or two before we see another.
I share this fear as well. I liked Undercovers. Though I don't think it was necessarily compelling TV, I will miss it. Gugu Mbatha-Raw was amazing. Kodjoe was suave and McRaney was lovingly crusty. Plus, I loved seeing two African-American characters in a 'non-traditional' show and in a not traditional for media anyway relationship (i.e. happy and functional). I also found Leo very annoying. Hoyt was okay. He was no Marshall (Alias), but he was decent.

The show had a tough row to hoe and it didn't do itself any favors by not being gripping. There were no really strong villains and I never really felt the Blooms were in danger once. It's mix of comedy and drama didn't work. Perhaps the show would've worked better if the Blooms had been separated or divorced and the espionage game bought them back together with the potential to rekindle their relationship, like gblews was saying. Who knows? Though I'm not going to lie and say that I wasn't relieved to see a functional marriage between black characters that had a healthy sex life. Yes, its that bad when it comes to the depictions of black relationships/love in the media for me. It's a shame though that the show never caught on or got to find its footing.

I hope its failure doesn't continue to relegate black characters to two-dimensional bosses, sidekicks and best friends or stereotypical drug dealers/users, prostitutes, and degenerates on TV. The fact that Undercovers was perhaps the first TV drama (since DS9 perhaps) to have two physically attractive black leads who were both professionals and married is pretty telling about the history and the current state of American TV. Unfortunately I don't have high hopes that we'll get to see a better stab at casting blacks in lead roles not related to stereotypically black themes for quite some time.
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Old November 8 2010, 02:25 PM   #41
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Honestly, its the show I desperately wanted to like...but couldn't. Basically the whole series amounts to talking about national security secrets in places that are not secure and the main character being insecure about the other guy boning his wife years ago. I like the actors, I like the productions staff, I like the premise, but something's just off and has been from the start.
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Old November 8 2010, 03:21 PM   #42
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It's a throwback to the kind of lightweight entertainment that used to be common in TV drama back in the '70s and '80s, something like Hart to Hart, say. These days, the turn-your-brain-off viewing niche tends to be filled by "reality" shows, so we expect dramas (or even comedy-dramas) to be deeper and more involved.
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Old November 8 2010, 03:48 PM   #43
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I wanted to watch this to support Gugu who is known for playing Tish Jones on Doctor Who amongst her other work. I don't have cable at home right now so I was never able to view it.
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Old November 8 2010, 04:05 PM   #44
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Honestly, its the show I desperately wanted to like...but couldn't. Basically the whole series amounts to talking about national security secrets in places that are not secure and the main character being insecure about the other guy boning his wife years ago. I like the actors, I like the productions staff, I like the premise, but something's just off and has been from the start.
I think having that guy in almost every episode really hurt the show. Once was okay, but it got really repetitive with all the jealousy.
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Old November 8 2010, 11:39 PM   #45
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Honestly, its the show I desperately wanted to like...but couldn't. Basically the whole series amounts to talking about national security secrets in places that are not secure and the main character being insecure about the other guy boning his wife years ago. I like the actors, I like the productions staff, I like the premise, but something's just off and has been from the start.
I don't see it as an issue of insecurity as more of disrespect. Why would the guy feel the need to bring that up in the first place, and to constantly do it? It wasn't funny, even the first time, and it got old real fast. In the later shows they've pretty much let that go and I was glad for it. What man is going to let another man talk about his wife like that, over and over again. I was disappointed that he didn't get warned the first time and punched the second, by either Mr. or Mrs. Bloom.
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