AMC's The Walking Dead Season 1 Discussion & Spoilers

[MilleniumLance]

dang it!!!!!!!! they did leave it with a cliffhanger wtf did jenner say!

[Dorian Thompson]

I'll bet a box of donuts he told Rick that they're all infected and they'll zombify when they die, bitten or not. Remember? When they asked about the blood tests Jenner didn't say they were okay. He said, "No surprises." Either that, or that he watched his buddy try to rape his wife on the security cam.

The virus was probably dumped in the water supply or something. That's how it spread and the first walkers appeared. There had to be a first zombie who wasn't bitten. It makes sense.

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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I'll bet a box of donuts he told Rick that they're all infected and they'll zombify when they die, bitten or not.

I thought that was supposed to happen to anyone who dies (regardless of cause). In the Romero films, ALL death leads to zombification, even if it's something entirely natural like a heart attack. The only exception is immediate brain death, like being shot in the head. Is that not also the case in this series?

[SG-17]

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

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I thought that was supposed to happen to anyone who dies (regardless of cause). In the Romero films, ALL death leads to zombification, even if it's something entirely natural like a heart attack. The only exception is immediate brain death, like being shot in the head. Is that not also the case in this series?

It was the case in the comics, so it probably will be in the series.

[Dorian Thompson]

I was under the impression that all who die will zombify ....hee.....isn't a known fact in this universe. Maybe I'm wrong. It does make sense, though. Patient zero zombie had to have been infected by something other than a bite. A virus dumped into the water supply of every major city would sure do the trick.

[SG-17]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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I was under the impression that all who die will zombify ....hee.....isn't a known fact in this universe. Maybe I'm wrong. It does make sense, though. Patient zero zombie had to have been infected by something other than a bite. A virus dumped into the water supply of every major city would sure do the trick.

Or a persist airborne virus.

[Zachary Smith]

SG-17 wrote:

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Or a persist airborne virus.

I insist there is NO virus!!!

[Peter the Younger]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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I was under the impression that all who die will zombify ....hee.....isn't a known fact in this universe. Maybe I'm wrong. It does make sense, though. Patient zero zombie had to have been infected by something other than a bite. A virus dumped into the water supply of every major city would sure do the trick.

It's almost a necessity to make the zombie apocalypse work as advertised, I think. Biting alone is a pretty poor way for a microbe to spread, globally speaking. But if it has a dormant state, where it can spread through a population without them knowing it, the virus/parasite could spread broadly before anybody knows a thing. If it was a planned attack, it could be coordinated so that hospitals all over the country would be compromised at the same time, making it virtually impossible for folks like the CDC to coordinate a medical response. Nasty thought.

[Meredith]

Peter the Younger wrote:

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It's almost a necessity to make the zombie apocalypse work as advertised, I think. Biting alone is a pretty poor way for a microbe to spread, globally speaking. But if it has a dormant state, where it can spread through a population without them knowing it, the virus/parasite could spread broadly before anybody knows a thing. If it was a planned attack, it could be coordinated so that hospitals all over the country would be compromised at the same time, making it virtually impossible for folks like the CDC to coordinate a medical response. Nasty thought.

Gotta be an alien virus from space. Imagine using a weaponless virus that is 100% lethal and uses the already dead victims as disease vectors, leading to minimal damage to the infrastructure. If I were an alien race, that is how I would take over a habitable planet. Plus you make if blood bourne so it makes the cleanup a lot easier later especially if it mutates.

[Meredith]

Peter the Younger wrote:

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It's almost a necessity to make the zombie apocalypse work as advertised, I think. Biting alone is a pretty poor way for a microbe to spread, globally speaking. But if it has a dormant state, where it can spread through a population without them knowing it, the virus/parasite could spread broadly before anybody knows a thing. If it was a planned attack, it could be coordinated so that hospitals all over the country would be compromised at the same time, making it virtually impossible for folks like the CDC to coordinate a medical response. Nasty thought.

What if it was a two stage virus, one part is airborne and spreads quickly but has no symptoms, the second part is blood borne and latches into the first part to kill quickly. I will bet the first part is the mimi-virus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimivirus

This virus is HUGE for a virus, contains DNA not RNA and is just plain freaky, LOL.

[Zachary Smith]

no! No! NO!! NO Viruses!!!!

OOoooooOOoo! Be patient! I have it ALL figured out!

Pathogens do not, can not and will NEVER effect dead tissue. Pure and simple.

There is an alternate mechanism by which the Undead are reanimated which circumvents and is independent of biological pathways. It explains everything from the fact that the Walking Dead reanimate in the first place and includes explanations for why they crave human flesh, acquire a decayed appearance so rapidly and even identifies why some zombies seem to function at different levels of intelligence, a few even seeming to maintain a slight concept of "self" and perhaps vague memories. I've even worked out why the bite kills--WITHOUT the fall-back of a "virus".

The Rise of the Walking Dead was a WORLD-WIDE event that manifested simultaneously across the planet. No pathogen can do that. The situation requires the presence of an element already in the environment which is then activated by another factor. Once the Dead rise, then, yes, those people dying from bites would form a spread constellation similar to that of a highly virulent contagion, but that is misleading. There was a direct Cause/Effect incident that created the situation and it operates on a non-biological principle. At least, it is not bio-CHEMICALLY based.

Be patient. I'm putting it all together in my short book.

[Aragorn]

MilleniumLance wrote:

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wtf did jenner say!

I don't know if anyone here will get it, but he told him... "Yahoo."

[Ryan]

Zachary Smith wrote:

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no! No! NO!! NO Viruses!!!!

OOoooooOOoo! Be patient! I have it ALL figured out!

Pathogens do not, can not and will NEVER effect dead tissue. Pure and simple.

Since it's not real it doesn't even matter. The comic has never explained it and the CDC wasn't even able to identify the pathogen before it fell apart on the show.

I always felt nanites were the only half-way plausible explanation for the zombie apocalypse but at the end of the day it's not exactly a genre that cries for veracity.

[Ryan]

PsychoPere wrote:

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Producer Gale Anne Hurd says that the writing staff was not fired. In addition, she expects the series to return in October 2011 and that Darabont & Kirkman will start mapping out the second season early next year.

I wonder what they're going to do about Carl. With such a long hiatus they'll have the same problem as Walt in Lost. I suppose they could jump the series forward several months that would really screw up the pacing (and kill one of the subplots in the comic, though that one looks like it's already dead).

[Sentinel]

Zachary Smith wrote:

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Be patient. I'm putting it all together in my short book.

Which I personally am getting tired of seeing you blather about every week.