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Old January 25 2011, 12:11 AM   #556
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At least he looked like the character. I can't imagine Hardy's Bane running around in a mask and vest with tubes in his head.
I'd rather Bane be played by a good actor and is close to the comic version in terms of character.

Making the character resemble the ones from the comics means nothing if they are horribly written. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane looked close to their comic versions, but they were crap in Batman and Robin.
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Old January 25 2011, 12:25 AM   #557
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^ This reminds me of when a friend of mine thought that Dolph Lundgren should play Lestat because he had the "look."
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Old January 25 2011, 04:52 AM   #558
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I don't think Tom Hardy can beat the portrayal of Bane in Batman & Robin (spits).

I mean he has classic lines such as BAAAAANNNNE and BAAAAANNNNE!!!!!!!!
At least he looked like the character. I can't imagine Hardy's Bane running around in a mask and vest with tubes in his head.
Me neither, thank the Gods. That would be horrible.
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Old January 25 2011, 04:58 AM   #559
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Since when is Tom Hardy not a good actor? He stole scenes in both "Rock 'N' Rolla" and "Inception". Was good in "Layer Cake" as well. Is he what people would consider the right look for Bane? Probably not but then we've not seen him as the character yet. People were bitching about Heath Ledger as the Joker before we saw him in the actual movie. We don't even know how Bane will be depicted in the film yet either. I'll reserve my judgment until I see him in the film.
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Old January 25 2011, 03:06 PM   #560
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^ As I said before, judging by his appearance in Bronson, I have no worries that he won't be able to manage the physical appearance of Bane.

Don't forget that when Christian Bale was cast as Batman, he was still skeletal from his role in The Machinist.
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Old January 25 2011, 03:27 PM   #561
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Since when is Tom Hardy not a good actor? He stole scenes in both "Rock 'N' Rolla" and "Inception". Was good in "Layer Cake" as well. Is he what people would consider the right look for Bane? Probably not but then we've not seen him as the character yet. People were bitching about Heath Ledger as the Joker before we saw him in the actual movie. We don't even know how Bane will be depicted in the film yet either. I'll reserve my judgment until I see him in the film.
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Old January 25 2011, 03:57 PM   #562
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Since when is Tom Hardy not a good actor?
He was in some disappointing science-fiction film, like, 10 years ago. Some people think it damaged his career and he only came back this past Summer with Inception. Others think that he never really was a "big star" actor and only did "meaningful" obscure stuff so it makes sense that he was never in another big-name movie until recently.
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Old January 25 2011, 03:58 PM   #563
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Since when is Tom Hardy not a good actor?
He was in some disappointing science-fiction film, like, 10 years ago. Some people think it damaged his career and he only came back this past Summer with Inception. Others think that he never really was a "big star" actor and only did "meaningful" obscure stuff so it makes sense that he was never in another big-name movie until recently.
And that makes him a bad actor how?


I mean, when someone asks "Why is XY a bad actor?" then you gotta reply with something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg, but not argue box office or stardom.
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Old January 25 2011, 04:16 PM   #564
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^ I don't think Trekker was saying he was a bad actor, he was just pointing to other people's ignorance - as in lack of knowledge - of Mr Hardy's career. That's what I took from his post, anyway
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Old January 25 2011, 04:38 PM   #565
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^ I don't think Trekker was saying he was a bad actor, he was just pointing to other people's ignorance - as in lack of knowledge - of Mr Hardy's career. That's what I took from his post, anyway
Pretty much.

After Inception came out people kept coming into the thread and saying, "Wow! Tom Hardy is a good actor! He's really shaken off that Nemesis stigma!" and stuff like that.

Now, I'm not familiar with Hardy's body of work but a quick look at IMDB shows he has somewhere around 30 other roles he had in various TV, film roles (among other forms of media.) Even before Nemesis he was only in two other notable movies. He's just obviously one of "those" actors who doesn't do the big, huge cash-in paycheck movies and goes after what he's passionate about. Nemesis was his first really big "property" he did and, yeah, it didn't work out for him but it hardly stalled his career.

Aside from the occasional Burton movie and the Pirates of the Caribbean movies Johnny Depp hardly has a huge breadth of films he's only really popular because of Burton and POTC, same could be said for Brad Pitt various "big projects" but, again, most of his work in smaller productions.

I don't think Haedy is "coming back" or has anything to come back from he's just expanding his career to more main-stream movies.

I actually liked him in Nemesis and he did a decent job with the shitty material he was given and, yeah, highly enjoyed him in Inception I don't think he's an actor still trying to recover from some meaningless movie he did a decade ago that most of the public hasn't even thought about or an actor who needs to prove himself. He's just doing more "main stream" things like Inception and now Batman.

I mean, when someone asks "Why is XY a bad actor?" then you gotta reply with something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg, but not argue box office or stardom.

Okay, that's pretty bad. It almost tops this:

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Old January 25 2011, 05:49 PM   #566
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Well, I think Tom Hardy had good material to work with in Nemesis -- no Trek film has ever had as strong and thoughtful a relationship between its captain and its villain -- and I think he did an excellent job with it (not a very good Patrick Stewart impression, but still a very good performance). I find him a surprising choice for Bane, since he didn't seem all that big and bulky in NEM or Inception, but I'm assuming that Nolan will focus on other aspects of Bane from the comics. Media adaptations have reduced Bane to a steroid-bulked brute, but he was conceived as the anti-Batman: a character who defeated Batman the same way Batman defeats his foes, by observing, planning, and strategizing from the shadows. He set all of Batman's enemies free to attack him en masse and wear him down, he observed Batman in action and deduced that he was Bruce Wayne, and only then, once Batman was already badly hurt and weakened, did Bane confront him and deliver the final blow. I think that could be a hell of a basis for the third film's plot, and you could use that side of Bane without using the Venom or the luchador mask at all (or at least keeping their use to a minimum, like the minimal use of Jonathan Crane's Scarecrow mask in the first film). And it could be tied in with Bane's later role in the comics as Ra's al Ghul's second chosen heir after Bruce rejected the offer -- which strikes me as more likely if the rumors of Talia's presence in the film are true.
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Old January 25 2011, 05:52 PM   #567
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Well he can be pretty bulky if he wants to.

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Old January 25 2011, 06:05 PM   #568
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^ I keep telling people about that performance and there have even been pics of it on the thread but they keep harping on about him not being bulky enough!
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Old January 25 2011, 06:05 PM   #569
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Tom Hardy admitted in an article that he fought depression after "Nemesis" and thought his career was over. If I find the article I'm referencing I will post it. As for "Nemesis"....he was fine in Nemesis, although I question the strong material he had to work with Christopher was referring to. John Logan's script was pretty weak and Stuart Baird's lack of knowledge and inability to work with the actors hurt the film tremendously. Aside from that in the films that I've seen Hardy in...he's been terrific.
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Old January 25 2011, 07:19 PM   #570
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Tom Hardy admitted in an article that he fought depression after "Nemesis" and thought his career was over. If I find the article I'm referencing I will post it. As for "Nemesis"....he was fine in Nemesis, although I question the strong material he had to work with Christopher was referring to. John Logan's script was pretty weak and Stuart Baird's lack of knowledge and inability to work with the actors hurt the film tremendously. Aside from that in the films that I've seen Hardy in...he's been terrific.
Totally agree.

The problems with Shits-on had absolutely nothing to do with Hardy. Even the fact he doesn't look like Stewart wasn't exactly his fault. He was actually quite brilliant with the material he was given.

I've seen a lot of people (not necessarily here) make the comparison to Hayden Christensen. The problem with that is, Christensen took bad material and made it worse. Hardy took bad material and made the best of it.
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