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Old July 12 2012, 03:20 PM   #3856
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Old July 12 2012, 07:53 PM   #3857
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Inception was original.
No, it wasn't.



On the discussion about Dent... how did Wayne prevent The Joker from telling the truth about Harvey Dent? Being in jail and going through the whole trial process would give him so much media attention, and there would be a lot of people who'd say "He's crazy, but I believe him."
I don't think Joker knew what Dent did after he left the hospital. They part ways there, Dent goes off and kills Wurtz, Maroni and his driver, and apparently some other people though I've never been entirely clear on who (Gordon mentions 2 cops being killed) - but Joker doesn't know any of that. He only knows that he sent Dent off to sow chaos, and, as he has faith that the people on the ferries will fall to barbarism, he has faith Dent will too.

So he goes to jail, trial, whatever, and has heard that Batman killed some people and that Dent is dead (presumably Batman had to take credit for Dent's death as well) - he'd probably smile himself to sleep thinking he'd corrupted Batman. Even if he suspected Dent was truly responsible, he wouldn't know it or have any proof of it. His goal was to screw with Batman anyway - which he succeeded in doing.


As for the Joker talking, that would imply the Batman movies are written as though the characters were real people (somewhere.) The Joker no more talks off screen than he spends two hours manhandling the hostages around the skyscraper or days sneaking explosives into the hospital. Essentially no one can even be pretended to exist when they're off screen. That's how Batman can move off screen on one side of a set of bad guys, then suddenly be on the other side without lumbering around in his Bat armour. He just wasn't anymore, then he was just somewhere else. No traveling involved. This kind of bad writing is unfortunately fairly common.
I can't say that any of Nolan's movies are about real people who exist off-screen. His stories explore idea spaces, with characters acting as probes in and around concepts. As for that being bad writing - it's not necessarily. It's only bad if you have very narrow tastes. For instance most of science fiction is notorious for doing the same thing. Nolan is good at casting, so his actors do most of the character building by lending believable emotion to the story. But if you asked me right now to recall any of the characters from Inception - I wouldn't be able to do it. I could remember the actors and what they did, but I don't remember any character names or anything but the broadest personailty strokes - because that's all that's really there.
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Old July 12 2012, 08:09 PM   #3858
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Another possibility is that the Nolanverse's Joker didn't survive long after the events of TDK. Gotham was full of people, on both sides of the law, who wanted him dead.
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Old July 12 2012, 10:06 PM   #3859
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Old July 12 2012, 10:40 PM   #3860
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So...I'm guessing it's going to rain a lot in this movie?
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Old July 12 2012, 10:58 PM   #3861
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The absence of any visibile detail around the eyes is a little off-putting. In particular, Selina's mask looks like a blindfold.
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Old July 12 2012, 11:31 PM   #3862
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I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, but now that I do, I agree it's very odd.
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Old July 13 2012, 03:58 AM   #3863
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Christoper Nolan sells out.

some snippets--

"I was somewhat happy with the first two films—probing the psychological landscape of Gotham from an adult perspective is sort of neat, if you like that kind of thing," Nolan told reporters at a promotional event. "But then I realized, 'Hey, what am I doing? Batman is a superhero. Superheroes are supposed to be fun and for kids.' So this time around, I wanted to make something nice and light and simple, because people aren't looking for a civics lesson with Batman. They just want some pleasant, mindless diversion."

The director also said Rises would be the "most merchandisable" Batman film in years, and he promised a vast array of licensed tie-ins, from infant onesies and light-up children's shoes to an expansion module for the Lego Batman video game and a special Dark Knight Rises edition of Monopoly featuring all the zany locations and characters from the film.
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Old July 13 2012, 04:20 AM   #3864
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An Onion classic.
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Old July 13 2012, 04:30 AM   #3865
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^Agreed. And yet, there was one long-time poster here who completely fell for it and even posted a reply before deleting it. Don't worry dude, your secret is safe with me.
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Old July 13 2012, 04:56 AM   #3866
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Don't worry about it. I have no pride. That's what I get for responding before I click the link.
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Old July 13 2012, 12:34 PM   #3867
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The Grauniad has a nice interview with Morgan Freeman, ostensibly about The Dark Knight Rises (which he does discuss), but more of the interview is about Barack Obama, American politics, and the inspiration of Nelson Mandela.
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Old July 13 2012, 05:33 PM   #3868
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Letterman can be such an ass sometimes.
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Old July 13 2012, 05:35 PM   #3869
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Letterman talking with Anne Hathaway. He could be joking or he has just spoiled the ending.
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Old July 13 2012, 05:51 PM   #3870
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Letterman stopped being funny or remotely engaging as a show host sometime ago imo.
Thanks for the heads up about possible spoilerage cause I'd have watched the clip just for Anne.
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