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Old June 30 2012, 06:53 PM   #3706
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

That latest TV spot is really selling me on Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.
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Old July 1 2012, 05:37 PM   #3707
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^ Has the following article been posted yet? It's a year old. Here it is anyway.

While Hathaway may not possess (or, has yet to demonstrate) the seductive cool required to tackle Catwoman (this appears to be the main complaint being levied against her), I’m sure she will be plenty convincing as the anti-heroine’s socialite alter-ego, Selina Kyle.

In fact, I don’t think the character will be Hathaway's biggest obstacle at all…I believe the director will. Over the course of seven excellent films, Christopher Nolan just hasn’t shown much creative regard for his female characters.
Christopher Nolan's lady troubles: Why 'The Dark Knight Rises' may be Anne Hathaway's biggest challenge
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Old July 1 2012, 06:38 PM   #3708
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By that logic, Nolan would have given us someone entirely convincing as Harvey Dent but not convincing as Two-Face.

Oh, wait...
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Old July 2 2012, 11:57 PM   #3709
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I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if this has come up, but I'm starting to get a serious DKR vibe off of this film, largely due to this image, which is reminiscent of the Mutant Leader rallying his mob. Then in the MTV music awards spot that just hit the web, an older cop tells a young one that "he's about to see a show" when Batman arrives on the scene. Nolan has always cribbed bits and pieces from existing stories and then spun off in an entirely new direction with them and there was (back when I was paying attention to this last) much speculation that the inclusion of Bane means that Knightfall would be the major inspiration for the upcoming film - but DKR is starting to look like the more direct antecedent to me.

Which makes me wonder if the "definitive ending" won't be Bruce Wayne faking Batman's death (and possibly his own as well) and setting up a more stealthy operation as he does at the end of DKR. Nolan has been amazing at capturing what I think is the strength of any great Batman story - triumph snatched from the jaws of tragedy so that while the overall tone of the tales is dark and ominous, the conclusions have an inspiring uplift to them.

Has any of the speculation on the film tilted this direction?
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Old July 3 2012, 12:10 AM   #3710
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I think you mentioned it, but here's that MTV footage again in decent quality
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Old July 3 2012, 12:13 AM   #3711
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If I ever hear that breathing sound in trailers again, I'm going to kill a kitten.
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Old July 3 2012, 01:06 AM   #3712
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I feel like there are influences from The Dark Knight Returns in all three films.
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Old July 3 2012, 03:13 AM   #3713
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That's because there are. It has been cited numerous times as being one of the source materials used for the trilogy.
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Old July 3 2012, 03:58 AM   #3714
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new official summary
It has been eight years since Batman vanished into the night, turning, in that instant, from hero to fugitive. Assuming the blame for the death of D.A. Harvey Dent, the Dark Knight sacrificed everything for what he and Commissioner Gordon both hoped was the greater good. For a time the lie worked, as criminal activity in Gotham City was crushed under the weight of the anti-crime Dent Act.
But everything will change with the arrival of a cunning cat burglar with a mysterious agenda. Far more dangerous, however, is the emergence of Bane, a masked terrorist whose ruthless plans for Gotham drive Bruce out of his self-imposed exile. But even if he dons the cape and cowl again, Batman may be no match for Bane.
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Old July 3 2012, 04:13 PM   #3715
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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF281347/

At 164 minutes, nearly 2 & 3/4 hours, this will be the longest one of Nolan's Batmovies yet.
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Old July 3 2012, 04:23 PM   #3716
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By that logic, Nolan would have given us someone entirely convincing as Harvey Dent but not convincing as Two-Face.

Oh, wait...

If this is suggesting the problem was Aaron Eckhart then I disagree. The problem with Two-Face in DK was that he really deserved more screen time, or maybe a whole new movie, and that his motivations and his "villain switch" is way too sudden.

It's like, he's a white hat hero for his entire career, then he gets disfigured and loses his fiancee, gets a very obviously manipulative talk from the Joker and suddenly he's a villain.
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Old July 3 2012, 04:38 PM   #3717
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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF281347/

At 164 minutes, nearly 2 & 3/4 hours, this will be the longest one of Nolan's Batmovies yet.
And yet again, just when I thought I couldn't get anymore excited about this film...
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Old July 3 2012, 04:56 PM   #3718
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By that logic, Nolan would have given us someone entirely convincing as Harvey Dent but not convincing as Two-Face.

Oh, wait...

If this is suggesting the problem was Aaron Eckhart then I disagree. The problem with Two-Face in DK was that he really deserved more screen time, or maybe a whole new movie, and that his motivations and his "villain switch" is way too sudden.

It's like, he's a white hat hero for his entire career, then he gets disfigured and loses his fiancee, gets a very obviously manipulative talk from the Joker and suddenly he's a villain.
I couldn't buy more screen time (let alone a whole nother movie) for a guy that would be riddled with infections and no ability to close an eye.
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Old July 3 2012, 05:44 PM   #3719
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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF281347/

At 164 minutes, nearly 2 & 3/4 hours, this will be the longest one of Nolan's Batmovies yet.
As long as it doesn't feel like 2hrs 45 minutes.
Frankly upon rewatch TDK feels as long as it is imo.
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Old July 3 2012, 05:52 PM   #3720
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That's because there are. It has been cited numerous times as being one of the source materials used for the trilogy.
I know Year One was cited as a major source for Begins, but when have the Nolan's or Goyer talked about DKR other than in relation to the tumbler's design? I'm not doubting you - I just haven't run across that and would be curious to read it if you have links.

I don't know that I'd say DKR specifically has influenced the other two films, though certainly Miller's work affected the overall tone. In terms of taking plot points or story ideas from comics stories I thought the creators had talked about Year One and The Man Who Falls for Begins, and Long Halloween and Killing Joke for TDK.

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It has been eight years since Batman vanished into the night, turning, in that instant, from hero to fugitive. Assuming the blame for the death of D.A. Harvey Dent, the Dark Knight sacrificed everything for what he and Commissioner Gordon both hoped was the greater good. For a time the lie worked, as criminal activity in Gotham City was crushed under the weight of the anti-crime Dent Act.
But everything will change with the arrival of a cunning cat burglar with a mysterious agenda. Far more dangerous, however, is the emergence of Bane, a masked terrorist whose ruthless plans for Gotham drive Bruce out of his self-imposed exile. But even if he dons the cape and cowl again, Batman may be no match for Bane.
Interesting - I had been under the impression that Batman had gone underground after TDK, but not that he had stopped operating completely in the period between the two movies. On first impression that feels a little contrived - the retired badass is a pretty tired trope. But, Nolan has a way of making these things work. The trailers so far make it plain that this is another big, complex story (so complex that the trailers can't really get any of it across), which I'm glad for because when he tells a big, complex story it has always been surprising and fascinating.

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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF281347/

At 164 minutes, nearly 2 & 3/4 hours, this will be the longest one of Nolan's Batmovies yet.
As long as it doesn't feel like 2hrs 45 minutes.
Frankly upon rewatch TDK feels as long as it is imo.
TDK sags a bit around the ferries - Nolan's one flaw is that he often goes for extended sequences where I think he's trying to build tension (and often does on the first viewing), but it ends up feeeling dragged out in subsequent viewings. It's a danger of suspense story-telling. Watch The Birds 4 or 5 times in as many years and it starts to feel a bit ridiculous even though the first time around it creeped you out completely.

I don't mind a movie feeling long - Lawrence of Arabia, Gone with the Wind and Dances with Wolves all feel long, and are all great movies.
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