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Old June 21 2012, 09:43 PM   #3676
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

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Batman's death might be part of Bane's ultimate plan, but one of the trailers has already shown Bane telling Batman why he simply doesn't kill him - "Your punishment must be more severe."
Not to mention the "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die" line.
Typical villain stupidity. Kill the hero immediately, you idiot! That way, he can't come back to stop you later, after you've weakened him, humiliated him, and left him to die. It's like supervillains have never read any comic books themselves.

it's not stupidity, it's the desire of winning in a very specific way, by breaking an opponent, not just killing him quickly. Haven't you ever tried winning a video game in a more challenging way, rather than just "winning" in an easier but less satisfying way?
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Old June 21 2012, 09:50 PM   #3677
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Batman's death might be part of Bane's ultimate plan, but one of the trailers has already shown Bane telling Batman why he simply doesn't kill him - "Your punishment must be more severe."
Not to mention the "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die" line.
Typical villain stupidity. Kill the hero immediately, you idiot! That way, he can't come back to stop you later, after you've weakened him, humiliated him, and left him to die. It's like supervillains have never read any comic books themselves.
Well if it helps Adrian Veidt aka Ozymandias from Watchmen has apparently read comics books much to the misfortune of everyone killed when his master plan went off.
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Old June 21 2012, 11:11 PM   #3678
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That trailer might be the best yet. I think we can safely surmise that Catwoman leads Batman to Bane, only to have regrets and ends up helping him by the end of the movie.
She allies herself with Bane in the beginning yes

Part of me thinks Catwoman doesn't know Batman is Bruce Wayne until Bane outs him with that line right in front of her, thus causing her to have a change of heart. There's also a shot of her looking very disturbed behind the fence in the new trailer.

Then again, with that mask Bane wears, I have no idea if that's what he says at that moment or just some creative editing.
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Old June 21 2012, 11:36 PM   #3679
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Not to mention the "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die" line.
Typical villain stupidity. Kill the hero immediately, you idiot! That way, he can't come back to stop you later, after you've weakened him, humiliated him, and left him to die. It's like supervillains have never read any comic books themselves.

it's not stupidity, it's the desire of winning in a very specific way, by breaking an opponent, not just killing him quickly. Haven't you ever tried winning a video game in a more challenging way, rather than just "winning" in an easier but less satisfying way?
Sure, but those are video games. However, if I've got a lot invested and there's a chance I might lose, I never "play with my food" just to make it more interesting. I eliminate the threat immediately.

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Not to mention the "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die" line.
Typical villain stupidity. Kill the hero immediately, you idiot! That way, he can't come back to stop you later, after you've weakened him, humiliated him, and left him to die. It's like supervillains have never read any comic books themselves.
Well if it helps Adrian Veidt aka Ozymandias from Watchmen has apparently read comics books much to the misfortune of everyone killed when his master plan went off.
Ozy's a good example of how you pull off a villainous master plan correctly. Don't explain it to the heroes until there's not a damn thing they can do about it, and don't needlessly toy with them--just keep them out of the way while you do what needs doing.
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Old June 22 2012, 01:22 AM   #3680
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That trailer might be the best yet. I think we can safely surmise that Catwoman leads Batman to Bane, only to have regrets and ends up helping him by the end of the movie.
Maybe her mother lives in Hackensack.
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Old June 22 2012, 03:51 AM   #3681
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That trailer might be the best yet. I think we can safely surmise that Catwoman leads Batman to Bane, only to have regrets and ends up helping him by the end of the movie.
Maybe her mother lives in Hackensack.
Man, I remember when every kid in High School played that, then there was that stupid scene in "Insurrection" where we see a bunch of kids playing it.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:27 AM   #3682
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^ You're thinking of hacky sack.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:30 AM   #3683
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Instead of the awesomely subtle SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE reference.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:44 AM   #3684
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^ Interesting.

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Old June 22 2012, 10:50 AM   #3685
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IT WAS A JOKE!
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Old June 22 2012, 04:15 PM   #3686
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IT WAS A JOKE!

don't worry, I got it. Interweb message boards can make humor tricky.


It was funny, though.
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Old June 22 2012, 04:28 PM   #3687
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^ I knew there was something there but I didn't listen to that little voice that said "Don't correct people!".

Anyway... It'll be interesting to see if or how much the fight scene in The Dark Knight Rises mirrors that clip from Superman.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:31 PM   #3688
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Bane- Ms KYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old June 22 2012, 09:01 PM   #3689
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I have a question about Superman. It’s probably not necessary to spoiler-tag a 1979 film, but it doesn't hurt.

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Old June 22 2012, 09:18 PM   #3690
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I think argument could be made that he was in "two places at once" but then the "Prime Superman" would have no reason to go back in time which might mean there are two Superman now, unless the "Prime" Superman simply disappears at the same time he would have. It's really a mess if you think about it too much.

And the whole thing is moot since Luthor's entire argument to Superman is null since Superman can move fast enough to find and catch both missiles as we see in the very scene in orbits the Earth at relativistic speeds! Searching the entire range of those types of missile shouldn't have posed any problem.
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