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Old November 22 2011, 04:34 PM   #2416
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This report suggests that the jump in time was a compromise between Nolan and the studio, so that they could set other movies between TDK and TDKR, given the popularity of the Nolanverse. The implication is that something big happens in TDKR which makes sequels unlikely - death, retirement, paralysis, winning the lottery (er, oh yeah, he's already a billionaire).

I tend to take that with a pinch of salt, as I would have thought that even if Nolan's set on giving his Batman movies a definitive ending (and we've heard that before) the studio will simply reboot, as has been done with Superman, Spider-man, Hulk, Punisher, James Bond etc.

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Interesting. I was thinking just yesterday that they could squeeze in a TV show to cover those missing years.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:04 PM   #2417
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Candidly killing off Batman would really piss me off. I really hope they don't do that.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:14 PM   #2418
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Gary Oldman talks TDKR's conclusion here - but I can't watch it cos I'm outside the USA! GRRRRR!!!!!

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Old November 22 2011, 05:16 PM   #2419
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From the trailer Batman will be extremely physically exhausted.

I imagine a scene with a staggering Batman. He's almost about to die. Bane has already been defeated

It would be very heartbreaking. As he falls to the ground Catwoman whispers in his ear

"Get up. Gotham needs it's Knight"
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Old November 22 2011, 05:21 PM   #2420
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8 years. That leads me to think that Nolan will really finish his Batman story by maybe having Batman die. Would he do it? It's always been a vibe i've gotten from his Batman movies that Batman was gonna pay big time in the end for a life of crime fighting, that he couldn't just continue on always doing that. This will be final closure for the character in these movies.
Well, he's had 8 years to plan his resurrection should he need it. He'll be back.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:34 PM   #2421
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Batman dying does kind of fit in with Nolan's more grounded, down to earth version of the character. He's always portrayed him as being much more human and real than the more mythical Burton Batman, or the indestructible Batman of the comics.

It would still be interesting to see, but somehow I doubt he's really going to go there. If anyone big is going to die, it's more likely to be Gordon or Alfred.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:35 PM   #2422
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I am not sure if Batman is going to die since that seems a tad too predictable. It has to be something jarring, though, because I've heard time and time again that Nolan's ending didn't sit well with Warner Bros. Whatever the ending is it's going to be risky and it's going to have a very monumental impact on Batman, his story and these movies. Plus I don't see how you can call a movie "The Dark Knight Rises" with Batman dead.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:37 PM   #2423
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Plus as we've talked about before in the thread...dying doesn't really make sense with regards to "Rises" being in the film title. I don't think Bruce will die either.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:38 PM   #2424
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Plus I don't see how you can call a movie "The Dark Knight Rises" with Batman dead.
Maybe he rises to Heaven.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:38 PM   #2425
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^ The dark knight rises then falls?
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Old November 22 2011, 05:39 PM   #2426
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I am not sure if Batman is going to die since that seems a tad too predictable. It has to be something jarring, though, because I've heard time and time again that Nolan's ending didn't sit well with Warner Bros.

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Old November 22 2011, 05:41 PM   #2427
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Maybe he rises as a symbol, and Batgirl and Nightwing take over.

I say Shailene Woodley for Batgirl.
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Old November 22 2011, 05:49 PM   #2428
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River: "The Batman will Rise ever so high and then fall further than ever before."

Plus "The Dark Knight Rises" might not actually refer to "The Dark Knight" since we see Bane holding a picture of Harvey Dent or maybe it hints at the return of someone else.
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Old November 22 2011, 07:36 PM   #2429
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The one thing the Nolan movies have done extremely well, in terms of creating a deep mythological feel to them, is to focus on Batman's relationship to Gotham - that is, it's been Gotham at stake in each of the two movies before. Ra's wanted to destroy Gotham to cleanse civilization. The Joker wanted to break Gotham's spirit by sowing chaos. Bruce has wanted to fundamentally change Gotham so that he could feel he had corrected his own tragedy, and therefore, go on to live a normal life. At the end of The Dark Knight he's plainly given up on the idea of living a normal life, by taking Harvey Dent's sins onto his own head - and with Rachel gone, his main motivation for desiring a normal life is dead.

Each of the previous movies has also had Batman triiumphing (saving Gotham) but at great personal cost - In Batman Begins his family home destroyed, his beloved mentor revealed as a betrayer and madman, his love alienated; in The Dark Knight, his love dead, his hopes for being a redeeming symbol to Gotham twisted as he is now believed to be a murderer - basically he has nothing left.

So Dark Knight Rises is likely to start with a much more hard-bitten Bruce Wayne - a man without hope, only a grim determination to fight on and on, believing somehow that by fighting he's still making a difference. But this determination by this time probably seems more like madness, especially if Gotham has descended further. Or if it decends further in this story due to Bane's appearance, which seems to be the direction it's been hinted that the story will go.

If the ending didn't sit well with Warners - well, I've always felt the voice over at the end of TDK felt a little tacked on, a way to try to snatch a triumphant ending out of the jaws of a pretty dark close. I would expect something similar here. Nolan's Batman rarely wins - he mostly just manages to barely hold back chaos from taking over. I wouldn't be surprised if this movie ends with an embittered, rage-filled Batman who has truly become something frightening. Nolan seems to be telling the tale of an idealistic young man who makes an extreme choice to dance with darkness, and slowly gets taken over by it, losing love, losing hope, being hammered into a hero who is inches away from the things he fights. Rather than Batman dying or being maimed at the end of this movie, I imagine we'll see him snap Bane's spine, or some other equally vicious tactic that begs the question of what has Bruce become in his effort to save Gotham - a hero or a monster?

That's a theme that many of the Batman comics have embraced, but I could see where a studio would want a more uplifting ending for a tentpole summer blockbuster.
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Old November 22 2011, 08:00 PM   #2430
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I think we might end up having Bruce Wayne reveal that he's Batman to the people of Gotham.
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