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Old October 22 2010, 11:19 AM   #31
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Been a long while since I saw 3, is that the one that gave Pinhead his WW1 backstory?
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Old October 22 2010, 11:22 AM   #32
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^ Yep, that's the one, and brought the Cenobites to Earth.
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Old October 22 2010, 11:25 AM   #33
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Thought so, the one where he essentially gets redeemed (until HR4 and beyond...)
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Old October 22 2010, 11:35 AM   #34
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Hellraiser 4 Run out of ideas? Set it in space, everything's better in space!

The only thing they got right were the effects which were pretty good. But with Kevin Yagher behind the camera that is no surprise, his work on the Chucky doll was genius.
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Old October 22 2010, 03:46 PM   #35
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Umm not only no.. but hell no..

I'll never forget the "We'll tear your soul apart" line.. great stuff...
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Old October 22 2010, 03:53 PM   #36
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It's been announced that the people actually helming the Hellraise reboot are the Drive Angry team of writer Todd Farmer (The Messengers, Jason X) and director Patrick Lussier (Dracula 2000, My Bloody Valentine), who are most definitely of the R-rated horror approach.
The problem with that, however, is all four of those films are shite.
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Old October 22 2010, 04:44 PM   #37
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I've got a soft spot for Jason X actually, that's into "so bad it's great" territory, but I don't want anyone involved with it to be part of a Hellraiser remake.
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Old October 22 2010, 05:17 PM   #38
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Jason X was an interesting idea, and there were a few fun bits in it (Rommie & Becca effectively switching places, the holo-bimbos in the sleeping bag), but other than that, it was crap. My opinion, of course.
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Old October 22 2010, 07:50 PM   #39
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Re: 'Hellraiser' (2012) remake aiming for PG-13 crowd

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It's not a romantic, light-hearted, rom-com is it?

I mean, it is horror, right? I've seen it listed as a horror movie.

(The slasher bit I'll admit to maybe being wrong on.)
Well of course it is a horror. Had you called it a horror movie I would not have disagreed, but you didn't, did you.

I'd hesitate to call Pinhead even a principle character in the first film, it's a grim tale of love, lust, greed and betrayal. Pinhead has all of a few minutes of screen time and is not essential to the underlying plot. They didn't adopt any slasher film elements until the 3rd film and did so as a result of sheer money-grabbing laziness. The rest of the films are not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as the first two.

You shouldn't let your dislike of the slasher genre stop you watching the first Hellraiser movie, it's a great film and a classic of the Horror genre as a whole.
ITA.

I always loved the first Hellraiser (although I thought that shifting from Julia to Kirsty as the lead in the last third hurt the film, due to Ashley Lawrence's awful acting, in contrast to Clare Higgins' sublime performance) and the second one was almost as good, or maybe I should say, as good, if you ignore some dodgy effects. Hellraiser is the true definition of 'horror' to me (as opposed to 'terror', which is the word I'd rather use for Halloween, for instance) - the first time I watched it, I literally had to avert my eyes during some of the scenes - like Monster Frank's first appearance to Julia ("Don't look at me"): it was horrifying and creepy, and at the same time, so moving and emotional.

I can see how a remake might improve some things (like, cast a better Kirsty, and make her into a more interesting character). But remaking it as PG-13? Now that's something that horrifies me in an entirely different way.
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Jason X was an interesting idea, and there were a few fun bits in it (Rommie & Becca effectively switching places, the holo-bimbos in the sleeping bag), but other than that, it was crap. My opinion, of course.
I was laughing so hard that I had to stop the film!
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How many good horror remakes have their actually been? I think Halloween and The Last House on the Left are pretty good, but Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on Elm Street were really terrible.
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