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Old October 19 2012, 01:38 AM   #256
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Jeez, am I the only one excited for this? The revival of a long dead franchise should be a time for celebration; not a time to bash and moan. If the film sucks? You ignore it and wait for the inevitable RedLetterMedia review. If the film is awesome? Well, awesome.
The problem is that Ghostbusters isn't a franchise (or at least it was never intended to be). The success of the first film is that its central idea is that four nuclear-powered hucksters somehow stumble into saving the world. It's a brilliant comedy first and foremost, with the sci-fi / horror elements aiding in building the joke. Ecto-1's design, for example, is a brilliant payoff. The whole movie is a happy accident in terms of how well it came together.

The only reason Ghostbusters 2 exists in the first place is because Columbia saw The Real Ghostbusters selling metric tons of toys, and it wanted some more of that sweet, sweet money, so they dumped trucks full of money on the principals' lawns and convinced them to come back. No one actually wanted to do the movie (outside of maybe Aykroyd), and it shows in the finished product, which seemingly everyone involved hates.

This is a movie that's been in development hell since about 1992, has never had a script that everyone has been happy with (Reitman had dropped out of development from 1999 - 2005ish because he hated what Aykroyd was pushing), Ramis hasn't made anything legitimately funny since some bits and pieces of Analyze This, Aykroyd has lost the plot, and even Reitman seems to have blown his wad after Evolution, which tried so desperately to be Ghostbusters 3 itself.

It's not a movie crying out to be made because there's a great story waiting to be told. It's a movie that Sony wants to make because it wants more sweet, sweet merchandise money, and the only reason Ramis, Aykroyd and Reitman are involved in the first place is because the deal they made back in 1984 stipulates that they have to be (or at least sign off on it), or else the movie can't go forward. If Sony could get rid of them, it would have, and we would have seen Ghostbusters: The Remake out for the 25th anniversary a few years ago. We're not going to get a nostalgia trip of one last adventure with the guys -- we're going to get something that introduces a new crew that Sony can then sequelize to hell and back.
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Old October 19 2012, 03:07 AM   #257
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^ Yeah that's all true... but I'm still willing to give the movie a shot. This thing has been talked about and debated forever, so it'll be nice to finally see what it looks like. Plus I'm kinda curious to see how they update and modernize everything.

And hey, if nothing else, we'll have tons of fun ripping it apart later online.
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Old October 19 2012, 04:28 AM   #258
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^ Yeah that's all true... but I'm still willing to give the movie a shot. This thing has been talked about and debated forever, so it'll be nice to finally see what it looks like. Plus I'm kinda curious to see how they update and modernize everything.

And hey, if nothing else, we'll have tons of fun ripping it apart later online.
That pretty much sums up my feelings.
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Old October 19 2012, 12:54 PM   #259
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I'm guessing Winston might still be around? Didn't see any solid mention of his inclusion.
If not around at start then be brought in later for help training, a type of coach?
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Old October 19 2012, 01:34 PM   #260
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At this point, we've all been subjected to so many years of idle chatter on the subject I kinda feel we deserve a movie just to have it pay off somehow. If Tron can produce a watchable sequel a generation later...

Besides, a new 'busters flick might well produce a significant upswing of cute girls in gray coveralls and proton packs for a Halloween or two. Isn't that worth ticket-buying for? Isn't that worth sighing for?
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Old October 19 2012, 02:41 PM   #261
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This is one situation where I don't understand why anyone would want a continuation rather than a reboot.

One of the grat things about Ghostbusters was that at a tie when Hollywood and America an in general was glorifying big business, banking and the wonderful world of megacorporations,, Ghostbusters gave us a story about a group of really smart, but eccentric guys who start a small business and frankly stumble onto the biggest event in human history. Its the little guys make it big...and they made "science" look kind of fun and cool (despite the total lack of actual science in any part of that movie).

Its the sotry of those guys that fun. Why would we care about a new generation of glorified exterminators. They should just find a new group of up an comming comedians and simply start over. Personally I think that Ghostbusters would make a great TV series. Afterall if Ghost Hunters can successfully chase after fake ghosts, and find an audience, surely the Ghostbuster can make it on TV. Plus for a cartoon, The Real Ghostbusters managed to put out quality product...so a live action TV series should be just as capable of making the concept work.
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Old October 19 2012, 02:55 PM   #262
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I'd rather see a reboot than a sequel.
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Old October 19 2012, 04:25 PM   #263
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Yup, this is still filed under "I'll believe it when I see it."

Let me know when there's a trailer.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:01 PM   #264
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Its the sotry of those guys that fun. Why would we care about a new generation of glorified exterminators. They should just find a new group of up an comming comedians and simply start over. Personally I think that Ghostbusters would make a great TV series. Afterall if Ghost Hunters can successfully chase after fake ghosts, and find an audience, surely the Ghostbuster can make it on TV. Plus for a cartoon, The Real Ghostbusters managed to put out quality product...so a live action TV series should be just as capable of making the concept work.
The problem with a reboot is that they'd pretty much have to retell the same story-- from the guys' first encounter with a ghost, to how they set up their business, to the conflicts they have with city officials, to their final heroic showdown at the end.

Obviously it's a great story, and the main reason that first movie worked so well, but we've already seen it. And there's no way a reboot could possibly do it any better.

I think they'd be better off just jumping forward in time and giving us a new story.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:14 PM   #265
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Some years ago, I would have been eager to see a Ghostbusters 3. Nowadays, though, I'm just not interested. If it is made, I would probably watch it on Netflix, but otherwise, no real desire, mainly due to exactly what's happening now; there's just no energy to it.

The first movie crackles with energy. It's funny as hell, it's quirky, it's goofball fun with some great character moments. The second GB wasn't as energetic or off the cuff, but I think it's still good for a laugh. The thing is, they ran out of steam rather quickly. This movie has been dying before it was ever made, and if it's made now, it will likely exist on life support the moment it hits the theater.

I might be wrong. It might end up being great. Hell, I was pleasantly surprised by the 2009 Star Trek movie, but it's still quite a stretch.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:23 PM   #266
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Another problem I see (whether it's a reboot or sequel) is that those glowing ectoplamic ghosts of the 80s just aren't remotely scary or frightening anymore.

What really needs to happen (and I know it won't), is for the Ghostbusters to go up against the freaky, Ring-style ghosts and creepy, wall-crawling creatures of today's horror movies. That would be fun as hell to watch, and much more in the spirit of the original movie than what they're probably planning to make.

If we're not as freaked out by the ghosts are the Ghostbusters are, then the movie's just not going to work.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:30 PM   #267
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I never found the ghosts in Ghostbusters to be scary to begin with.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:42 PM   #268
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Well they weren't terrifying or anything, but they were at least a bit creepy and you could buy them as a serious threat.

And when I was 10 I certainly remember being freaked out by those terror dogs.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:48 PM   #269
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The 11-year-old me found the terror dogs quite, uh, terrifying. But other than that, the ghosts weren't exactly meant to be scary (except maybe the librarian for just a moment).

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I'm guessing Winston might still be around? Didn't see any solid mention of his inclusion.
If not around at start then be brought in later for help training, a type of coach?
I'm also surprised nobody mentioned him either. Personally, I think Winston would have probably moved on. Now that I think about it, he'd be a good antagonist in the form of a city servant.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:49 PM   #270
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The very first scene with the librarian and the ghost was eerie.

Louis being chased by the terror dog was sort of suspenseful when it switched to the dogs point of view
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