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Old October 5 2010, 03:52 PM   #16
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

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Just ask them if they think they're really members of their favorite sports team when they wear the team's jersey, and paint their faces in team colors, and tattoo the team's friggin logo on their arms.
Ditto.

It's just their way of feeling superior and pissing you off.

That being said, I always like to think that some of the other stuff like warp drive and transporters will eventually happen, thereby making Trek truly real and proving all of them wrong, it probably just won't be in my lifetime.
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Old October 5 2010, 04:03 PM   #17
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

It's not just a TREK thing. Some people just don't comprehend appreciating fiction as fiction. Look at the nutcases who think that the Harry Potter books are going to convert children to Satanism or whatever. And, growing up, I don't know how many times I had to explain to concerned teachers and grown-ups that, no, I didn't really believe in vampires and werewolves. I just liked to read about them.

The other explanation, of course, is that the really nutty fans, who take Trek or Star Wars or Twilight too seriously, are the ones who get all the press!
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Old October 5 2010, 04:10 PM   #18
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

I suppose it's because the franchise generates so much sincere, serious discussion amongst its fan base. I've never actually met someone who believed with frightening dedication that all of it was one hundred percent non-fiction.

Star Trek isn't the only thing to get this reputation from non-fans. I've run into similar reactions from people regarding everything from pro wrestling to old sitcoms.

For me it's just fun to discuss/debate things like movies, video games and TV shows. As long as no one gets TOO invested in it I get a big kick out of it all.
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Old October 5 2010, 04:18 PM   #19
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

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This has happened to me a few times over the years too.

I also wish people would ask me first before they assume I believe in UFOs because I like Star Trek.
Put it on a t-shirt.
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Old October 5 2010, 04:39 PM   #20
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Another problem non-TrekKers can't get around is the large continuity base vs Trek Lit. (Iknow, I know--another arguement) Most of us can rattle off trivia endlessly.

Sherlock Holmes is another fictional character that a lot of otherwise grounded folks will get red in the face insisting was a real person.
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Old October 5 2010, 04:40 PM   #21
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Q: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?
A: If they have read some of the rants on this, and other, Trek forums... I can see how they could make that assumption. I have never seen fans of other fictional universes get so emotional and argumentative as Trek fanboys do over mundane minutiae.

Like any class of people, it is easy to stereotype the entire group by the actions of a radical few. It is not logical, but I have found it to be true.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:02 PM   #22
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

I can't believe this thread has reached two pages and no one has busted out a Sisko gif and a Sisko-like ITTTT'SSSS REEEEEALLLLLLLL!

There was this episode of "The Big Bang Theory" where Rajesh says to Summer Glau something about her being in space when she starred in "Firefly" and she asks him if he's one of those people who actually believed that. I assumed this was just some typical sitcom insult line, not a question based on a genuine belief that such people really exist.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:04 PM   #23
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

It is the extreme fans that get out of control and become the bad stereotypes that the average fan gets accused of being. Anne Rice has commented on how some of her fans freaked her out when they would come up to her at book signings with stange contact lenses and canine teeth surgically/dentally modified into "real" fangs.

Over the years I have been teased a bit about being a "Trekkie", but I only shake my head when I think about the football fans that paint faces and bodies, stand shirtless in snowy stadiums, let games monopolize their fall weekends, spend small fortunes on tickets, memorize their own set of "equally useless" trivia, and get in fights in bars over teams. The best was when my neighbor actually charged and kicked in his television set when his team lost a big game. His wife was less than impressed with him.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:15 PM   #24
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

I like the sports comparison. I read the same thing on another Star Trek forum...it seems to be a common defense among Star Trek fans that us obsessing over a TV show and spending a lot of cash on merchandise related to it is no crazier than how much time and money people spend on sports.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:17 PM   #25
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Why? 'Cause they're soulless idiots.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:22 PM   #26
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Probably because of fans like that jury duty lady. She didn't do any of us any favors, IMHO.
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Old October 5 2010, 07:25 PM   #27
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Because so many of us get emotional about the minutiae of the "Star Trek universe" and its continuity.

How "real" is this piece of made-up pooh-bah compared to that piece?

We talk about things like "the post-Dominion War era" as if it matters.

"How soon do you think we'll have something like the transporter, if ever?" I mean, that's a completely meaningless question for several reasons, but we can generate pages of discussion about it that appear to be predicated on a consensus that there's a chance that we can derive an answer.

It also doesn't help when the occasional whacko shows up for jury duty in a Trek costume while calling it a "uniform."

EDIT: I see spookytage beat me to that last observation.

A fictional franchise is only mildly comparable to a sports team, unless you're talking about something like the WWE.
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Old October 5 2010, 08:59 PM   #28
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

Overheard at Shore Leave...

"Why are they whining about canon?"

"The whole thing seems less real to them now."
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Old October 5 2010, 09:04 PM   #29
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

It doesn't help that the general media perpetuates the cliche of us as a collection of socially inept wackjobs.
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Old October 5 2010, 09:14 PM   #30
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Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real?

oh trekkies get crap from everybody.......nobody understands it's no different to liking any other kind of fandom. I know it's obviously not real in this world but there is that crazy side of me that likes to think there's an alternate universe where they are all real........ahh you can but dream!
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