Why do non-fans think we think it's real? - Page 10

zar · October 11 2010, 06:17 PM

RandyS wrote:

137th Gebirg wrote:

Warped9 wrote:

Sports fans get a pass because sports have been around longer and long accepted by mainstream society. But some sports fans can be just as obsessive.

QFT. And IIRC, the etymology of the term "fan" originally derives from a much larger and more descriptive word - "fanatic".

Which is why I hate the term fan. It makes you sound crazy, and I am definately NOT crazy.

Weird yes, crazy, no.

I hate the term "weird". It makes you sound like a witch.

Forbin · October 11 2010, 07:59 PM

Dark Vader? Turn in thy geek card at once!

SPCTRE · October 11 2010, 08:08 PM

Forbin wrote:

We had a series of rah-rah posters up at work, each one featuring a photo of an employee and one of the company's four "key objectives." Not having been chosen as a model for one of them, I got a little jealous, and created a Key Objective poster of myself, mimicking the style of the real ones as closely as possible:

http://www.inpayne.com/temp/posterpayne.jpg

It's been hanging in my office for years, and it actually gets a chuckle from everyone who sees it. Even the company president gave it a hearty laugh.

That's awesome

RandyS · October 11 2010, 11:21 PM

Nerys Myk wrote:

RandyS wrote:

137th Gebirg wrote:

QFT. And IIRC, the etymology of the term "fan" originally derives from a much larger and more descriptive word - "fanatic".

Which is why I hate the term fan. It makes you sound crazy, and I am definately NOT crazy.

Weird yes, crazy, no.

Really? You're going to let the word's etymolgy control you in that way?

Um.. what?

Shatnertage · October 11 2010, 11:51 PM

Forbin wrote:

Dark Vader? Turn in thy geek card at once!

Mistakes were made?

Nerys Myk · October 12 2010, 01:12 AM

RandyS wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

RandyS wrote:

Which is why I hate the term fan. It makes you sound crazy, and I am definately NOT crazy.

Weird yes, crazy, no.

Really? You're going to let the word's etymolgy control you in that way?

Um.. what?

You dont like the word "fan" because its derived from the word "fanatic" and think when directed towards you it makes you sound crazy. When in actuality it mean you like something. To me thats an over reaction to the word. Giving it more power than it has.

FormerLurker · October 14 2010, 01:32 AM

RandyS wrote:

137th Gebirg wrote:

Warped9 wrote:

Sports fans get a pass because sports have been around longer and long accepted by mainstream society. But some sports fans can be just as obsessive.

QFT. And IIRC, the etymology of the term "fan" originally derives from a much larger and more descriptive word - "fanatic".

Which is why I hate the term fan. It makes you sound crazy, and I am definately NOT crazy.

Weird yes, crazy, no.

I'd rather be strange. Strange people are strange, weird people act strange to attract attention.

JarodRussell · October 14 2010, 01:39 AM

Nerys Myk wrote:

RandyS wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

Really? You're going to let the word's etymolgy control you in that way?

Um.. what?

You dont like the word "fan" because its derived from the word "fanatic" and think when directed towards you it makes you sound crazy. When in actuality it mean you like something. To me thats an over reaction to the word. Giving it more power than it has.

Leonard Nimoy also dislikes the word fan as it is short for fanatic, and preferes the term "followers".

Nerys Myk · October 14 2010, 02:30 AM

Sounds a bit cultish.

Sector 7 · October 14 2010, 02:51 AM

JarodRussell wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

RandyS wrote:

Um.. what?

You dont like the word "fan" because its derived from the word "fanatic" and think when directed towards you it makes you sound crazy. When in actuality it mean you like something. To me thats an over reaction to the word. Giving it more power than it has.

Leonard Nimoy also dislikes the word fan as it is short for fanatic, and preferes the term "followers".

"Followers" is usually found in the same paragraph as "cult", "compound", "Kool-Aid" and/or "suicide". One does not usually see it paired with "Star Trek" or "science-fiction".

zar · October 14 2010, 06:10 AM

Google gives the same number of results for the phrases "cult followers" and "show followers", 1 million results for "followers of the cult" and 1.6 million for "followers of the show"

RandyS · October 14 2010, 06:20 PM

FormerLurker wrote:

RandyS wrote:

137th Gebirg wrote:

QFT. And IIRC, the etymology of the term "fan" originally derives from a much larger and more descriptive word - "fanatic".

Which is why I hate the term fan. It makes you sound crazy, and I am definately NOT crazy.

Weird yes, crazy, no.

I'd rather be strange. Strange people are strange, weird people act strange to attract attention.

Well, that works too.

RandyS · October 14 2010, 06:22 PM

Nerys Myk wrote:

RandyS wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

Really? You're going to let the word's etymolgy control you in that way?

Um.. what?

You dont like the word "fan" because its derived from the word "fanatic" and think when directed towards you it makes you sound crazy. When in actuality it mean you like something. To me thats an over reaction to the word. Giving it more power than it has.

And to me, thinking that a word has power to control me (it doesn't) is also an overreaction.

But hey, to each his own, right?

zar · October 14 2010, 07:39 PM

It does have the power to control you in the sense that it's the sole cause of your reaction to the word. If you had no knowledge of the etymology, the word wouldn't bother you. The problem is, etymology and meaning are completely different things. There are probably hundreds of words you use on a regular basis which have histories of meaning something very different, but that doesn't affect how you use them.

JarodRussell · October 14 2010, 11:03 PM

Speaking of fan(atics), has anybody seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB28WMv7wUE

And yes, that's the image the "general public" has of Star Trek fans. Fat, in uniform, doing very weird things.

October 11 2010, 07:59 PM	#137
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October 14 2010, 02:30 AM	#144
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real? Sounds a bit cultish. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

October 14 2010, 06:10 AM	#146
zar Captain	Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real? Google gives the same number of results for the phrases "cult followers" and "show followers", 1 million results for "followers of the cult" and 1.6 million for "followers of the show"

October 14 2010, 07:39 PM	#149
zar Captain	Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real? It does have the power to control you in the sense that it's the sole cause of your reaction to the word. If you had no knowledge of the etymology, the word wouldn't bother you. The problem is, etymology and meaning are completely different things. There are probably hundreds of words you use on a regular basis which have histories of meaning something very different, but that doesn't affect how you use them.

October 14 2010, 11:03 PM	#150
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: Why do non-fans think we think it's real? Speaking of fan(atics), has anybody seen this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB28WMv7wUE And yes, that's the image the "general public" has of Star Trek fans. Fat, in uniform, doing very weird things. __________________ lol l /\ Last edited by JarodRussell; October 14 2010 at 11:15 PM.

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