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| View Poll Results: For quality archeology-themed adventure, 1999's "The Mummy" is... | |||
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1 | 3.03% |
| Better than Raiders' sequels |
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7 | 21.21% |
| Better than Temple only |
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1 | 3.03% |
| Better than Crusade only |
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0 | 0% |
| Better than Skull only |
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9 | 27.27% |
| Better than Temple and Crusade |
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0 | 0% |
| Better than Temple and Skull |
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7 | 21.21% |
| Better than Crusade and Skull |
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1 | 3.03% |
| Better than some other combination of Indy movies (please specify below) |
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1 | 3.03% |
| Worse than all the Indy films |
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6 | 18.18% |
| Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Raiders
The Story As the 2000 book The Films Of Steven Spielberg notes, Doom and Crusade don't so much fit alongside Raiders as remake it: in each, Indy is minding his own business until he's told about a mystical object he doesn't really believe in, but he goes looking for it anyway, finds it, learns some humility, and lets it go. (So far, this describes Skull, too.) Apart from the missing gun gag in Doom and the vague reference to the Ark in Crusade, only Skull demands to occupy the same Dr. Jones' life. And it's not hard to see why: a pious, believing Indy is no fun at all; we want him to be a lovable rogue, and share in his excitement when he begins to realize that bedtime stories are real. So whenever he gets chastened and humble, it's time to end the movie and restart his journey on the next one. The Mummy, on the other hand, tells its own story of how Evy learned to break out of her meek shell and inspired Rick to clean himself up and look beyond his own narrow interests for a change. Oh, and there's the whole Terminator-Mummy thing. Say what you like about the movie, it's definitely not a narrative or thematic retread of Raiders. The Heroine Rachel Weisz is a better actress than any of the Indy girls, and certainly gives a more radiant performance, with the debatable exception of Raiders' (but not Skull's) Karen Allen. (Plus, she's English!) And, in a sly way, she's really The Mummy's main character: she rescues Rick from hanging, she prompts the journey to Hamunaptra, she wakes finds and Imhotep up and then takes away his immortality. If you're immune to the charms of Weisz's performance... I really can't help you. ![]() The Action No nuked fridge. No sledding down a mountain on an inflatable raft that magically avoids all trees. No day trip that starts off in the desert and transitions to forested mountains later that afternoon. But you do get fun stunts, a great car chase and soldier mummies. One can argue that individual sequences in the Indy sequels supass those of The Mummy, but the latter's action has more consistency. The Villain Let's face it: Raiders used both of Indy's greatest villains. You have the amoral but not quite evil learned counterpart (Belloq), and a-not-as-smart but definitely evil and creepy Nazi (Toht). How do you follow those up? With a dude wearing an antler hat, a selfish double-crossing rich guy, a hot blonde and Cate Blanchett in a wig and a gym track suit: these were decent characters, but none were really frightening or memorable. Imhotep, however, is a badass with soul, played with understated cocky humor by Arnold Vosloo. He's simply a more compelling antagonist than any Indy villain outside of Raiders. The Hero I won't try arguing that Brendan Fraser is cooler than Harrison Ford, because he isn't - even if he is a good deal taller! But while he doesn't get any scenes as touching or heartfelt as the Crusade blimp discussion or rip any hearts out, he does have a fun, dramatic arc from total screwup to formidable rescuer of damsels in distress. And while O'Connell isn't cooler than Indy, either, his childish goofiness perfectly fits with and accentuates the movie's irreverent, unabashedly contemporary fourth-wall-nudging tone, whereas Indy's sequels have either been overly gruesome and slapstick (Temple), overly slapstick (Skull) or pretty close to Raiders but with an abundance of awkwardly silly lines/sight gags (Crusade). The Dearth of Lameness Short Round and Willie. A mine cart chase that plays out like a Donkey Kong game. A Boy Scout troop from a mountainous, forested small town that can ride on horseback to Utah's Monument Valley in the course of an afternoon. A centuries-old knight who speaks modern BBC English, and has apparently been reading a book for several hundred years. A KGB agent who actually attempts a Jedi Mind Trick. Tarzan Mutt. Etc. All these factors speak for themselves. The Sequels Yes, The Mummy Returns was atrocious and Tomb of the Dragon Emperor at best mediocre, but this argument doesn't concern those two. Conclusion I could go on, discussing the awesomeness of John Hannah and Oded Fehr, not to mention the fantastic sense of place, Jerry Goldsmith's excellent score and more, but I think I'll rest my case here. I say that for the above reasons and more, The Mummy is the best archaeology-themed adventure movie since Raiders... let the debate begin!
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
Im-ho-tep ... Im-ho-tep ... ? ![]() I'm trying to think of other archaeology-themed films since Raiders and since none are immediately coming to mind I suppose that speaks to a general lack of either quality or impact. The Mummy was a near-perfect film. It's not exactly original or innovative, but it succeeds at nearly everything it sets out to do. As for comparisons, Crusade is a good-but-flawed film and while Skull was plenty fun, it pushed the limits of plausibility. And I've long said that Temple of Doom would have been an abject failure of a movie if it didn't have the "Indiana Jones" moniker attached to it. The Mummy is superior to all three Raiders sequels -- even if they feature John Williams. The Mummy sequels ... well, let us not speak of them in this life, or the afterlife.
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
None worth mentioning. |
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
If they could combine those two (the first had more of a horror feel, the second more action) then that would have made a most excellent Indy IV. |
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
archaeology themed movies other than Mummy? Tomb Raider and its sequel... |
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade The Mummy Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom The Body Stargate National Treasure Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Sahara The Mummy Returns The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor National Treasure: Book of Secrets Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - The Cradle of Life Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist (Schrader Version) / Exorcist: The Beginning (Harlan Version) Firewalker King Solomon's Mines Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold That's about all the archaeology/treasure hunting related movies set in the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries that came out post-Raiders that I can recall off the top of my head. Any further back and you have to start getting into pirate and barbarian films.
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Re: The Mummy ('99): Still the best archaeology-themed flick since Rai
Both Mummy and NT are slight variations. Mummy is more dumb/action archeology fun. NT is more cerebral/action archeology fun. Raiders, Mummy and National Treasure are all great first installments to a franchise.
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The first two Mummy movies were fun summer movies that I am nostalgic for, having enjoyed them as a teen. They weren't the classiest or most sophisticated movies, but they weren't as stupid as a lot of the big budget stuff that comes out these days, and I enjoyed the whole cast, especially Rachel Weisz. They made me and my friends laugh, and when I watch the first two on DVD, they still make me laugh, even as I'm now able to recognize how immature they are at times (especially the second one).
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